you're talking about mini-itx standard. I have one and it's a great little puter. the mobo measures 17cm x 17cm and has about everything onboard, including lan and s-video out. they're not built for gaming (8mb onboard vid isn't nearly enough) and the processors are soldered onto the board, making upgrades not an option. I have the 800mhz C3 Samuel Via board...works great. I'm actually planning on selling my system for starting bid of $399 on ebay...need cash for a more capable system.
you should look at the Shuttle barebones systems, specifically the intel-based 533/800mhz fsb systems on NewEgg...this is the Shuttle one a buddy of mine has, very happy with it.
the shuttle system I mention here is the SFF (small form factor) standard...and is becoming more popular because the processors are easily upgradeable and are def more powerful than the mini-itx standard.
gl!
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