talkin about new consols there are 2 be 2 more throwing there hat into the ring. they were announced this year in E3 and are both based on a amd chip (one a 1700+ and the other a 2200+ ( i think that is right been a while since i read it)) i also believe one will have a 5700 in it (the one with the faster cpu) they pridicted that the console that is useing the 1700+ will fail but the one useing the 2200+ will be very succesful.