Quote:
Originally Posted by Creatures  so it seems all of you are in favor of a police state?
Creatures |
Creatures and disley you are an anarchists at heart?
do you believe that no one should be held to account for their actions and that we need not stand for criminal behavior?
Anarchy is the worst state humans can live in. Just ask Iraqis how they feel some of them actually pine for the horrors of the saddam days just to regain some order and peace.
Police should be powerful and quick guided by reasonable rules. The average citizen should respect the crappy position the police are put in by the publics actions... You may wish to pick on the police but they are in a thankless job that in large part allows you to live your life as you do.
as for my statement of reasonable rules guiding police, in this case it would appear as if they overstepped their bounds. But not by as much as you guys would like to think.
This idiot student forgot his ID (not a horrible mistake)
This idiot student refused to leave when he was rightfully requested to leave (now we are entering into troublemaker territory.)
This idiot resisted the cops demand to leave initially, but when sufficiently threatened he decided to leave. (he should not have resisted verbal requests)
he finally began to leave and when the cop ushered him out he stopped and resisted once again. (now I believe the cops are within their rights to force the issue as the guy is being an ass)
tasing him at this point is not beyond the pale of reason. well after requests for him to place his hands behind his back for handcuffing. If he refused at that point I would think removing his resistance with 200,000 volts would not be out of the question.
Now once hand cuffed and tased I am not sure I can defend the cops very much. i think at that point it would be customary to drag him out under his handcuffed arms...
Cops made two basic mistakes AFAIAC but I also do not know what their policy was for this situation.
1) if he was leaving after verbal request perhaps they did not need to grap his arm and hustle him out of there.
2) tasing him 4 additional times. was a bit harsh.