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Gomer · November 5th, 2007, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Gomer

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Originally Posted by tony_j15

As to the founding fathers:

Of the 55 signers of the Constitution, 29 were Anglican, 16-18 were Calvinist, 2 were Methodist, 2 were Lutheran, 2 were Roman Catholic, 1 drifted between Quaker and Anglican, and only 1 was a professing Deist – Dr. Benjamin Franklin, who attended every kind of Christian worship, contributed to all denominations, and called for public prayer.

And straight from the horses mouths:

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From the horse's mouth eh? But in none of the documents that are the very backbone of this country.

From another thread, which was never responded to anyway:
Beware of what is called "Christian"

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Originally Posted by Gomer

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Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

Hmm... I guess you've never read The Declaration of Independence, The Bill of Rights, The Constitution of the United States, or even George Washinton's Easter Proclamation. Seems to be a whole lot of religion mixed with politics in there.

I am sorry... but that is a purely ignorant statement. And from it, I can tell you have never read those documents. Maybe church has warped your mind. Reread the documents you mention (save for the last, I've never read it)... and point out the "whole lot of religion mixed with politics" that is included in those documents.

That is one of the biggest loads of crap to me. That our founding fathers intended this to be a theocracy, Christian nation, religious this that etc.

They wrote those documents that you mentioned. The very documents on which this entire country is built. And as important as God was to them, he is only mentioned once in the Declaration of Independence:

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When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

They do mention the creator:

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We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.

Creator... that's a cool idea. Where's the rest of the religion?

The Bill of Rights had this big chapter on religion:

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Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion

No other mention of God, Religion, Flying Spaghetti Monster or otherwise in that document. Did I miss it?

And The US Constitution??????

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The Senators and Representatives before mentioned, and the Members of the several State Legislatures, and all executive and judicial Officers, both of the United States and of the several States, shall be bound by Oath or Affirmation, to support this Constitution; but no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.

No religious test? That's a great idea!

The big three documents that are the very foundation of this nation.... and Jesus doesn't even get a cameo appearance. If religion was so important to the founding fathers and was meant to be a keystone of this nation... why were they so negligent in including it in the defining documents of this country?

Again, I'd love to see the "a whole lot of religion" in the Declaration of Independence, Bill of Rights, and Constitution. Who has brainwashed you Atomic Rooster?