Hi Coolsax Narnies here to say thanks so for the help. I am enjoying the reading too and learning lots on this amazing feedback site. You sure are cool and thanks again again and again. I think part of the problem was when I used my new software Advance windows Care prov2 Awesome tool BUT forgot to check what I was getting rid of in the registry. I followed my steps back and restored everything Works (she says hopefully) Peace to you coolsax xx Narnies