rh 7.3: what would YOU like me to review?

storm2k · May 10th, 2002, 03:32 PM

one of the comments in my redhat 7.3 inpressions thread was asking what software i've been trying? suffice it to say, other than open office, not much, since most of what i need comes with the distro.

but since i'm a valiant reviewer, for the fun of it, i'll open up the floor to the rest of you folks. what software packages would you like me to review on redhat? what do they do and what do you want to know about them? i will review them and post back here.

sound good?

capybara · May 10th, 2002, 08:39 PM

using up2date and the RHN
please!

storm2k · May 10th, 2002, 10:54 PM

what about up2date and the rhn would you like to know?

basic usage is as follows:

* when you first install redhat, you run rhn_register as root. you type in a username, password, and email address. if you've done this before, it will link this proflie to your username on rhn. if not, you wlil go through the registration process. iregardless, you will create a profile name and then upload a package profile to redhat.

* after this, you just need to run the up2date program. it will log into rhn and tell you what packages need updating. this is good, but unlike apt-get, you have to work out the dependancy problems yourself. you select what packages you want, and it downloads and installs them. you can even update your kernel this way, it will not kill your computer like mandrake's software updater can.

right now they're limitng up2date to those who pay for access, hopefully this will end.

capybara · May 13th, 2002, 10:25 PM

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Originally posted by storm2k
what about up2date and the rhn would you like to know?

basic usage is as follows.....
right now they're limitng up2date to those who pay for access, hopefully this will end.

i really would rate it as unlikely up2date will ever be completely free, with RH trying to make a profit.
>>>what id like to see is a comparison of
ease of doing an upgrade for example,
try to upgrade kde 2.* to kde3 using each of the following:
1. regular rpms
2. apt-get for mandrake, which is available
from mandrake cooker
3. up2date
4. apt in conectiva, another rpm-based distro
5. apt-get for debian
>>>also, try to do a newbie-like install
using all default options. will the newbie be successful ? assume the newbie has only a
windoze backround, and so he doesnt know how to make a root and swap partitions, or that
these partitions are even needed.
>>>next, use the interrnet connection wizard. will the newbie be able to get online without
knowing hostname, dns addresses, etc.

>>>we were ALL once such a newbie, and a distro should enable the newbie with
windoze XPerience only to be successful
if that distro wants to compete with m$.

linux_guru · May 13th, 2002, 11:13 PM

Quote:

what would YOU like me to review ?

NOTHING.

Tried RH 7.3, not 100% satisfied with. Sticking with Drake 8.2 - it's so much nicer.

And we know how much you are biased towards RH, right ? (j/k)

pbharris · May 13th, 2002, 11:52 PM

Hey - Redhat Has some new config tools - e.g. redhat-config-<this> - a decent review on thse would eb really handy because linuxconf is gone.
thanks!!

linux_guru · May 14th, 2002, 03:33 AM

Hey PB:

Just answering the guys question. I tried it and didnt like it. CUPS is broken (with my printer anyway), can't select Reiserfs at install time, install routine not as configurale as Drake's, etc, etc.

If it works for you, then great. Go for it. For me, Drake is the distro of choice.

pbharris · May 14th, 2002, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by linux_guru
Hey PB:

Just answering the guys question. I tried it and didnt like it. CUPS is broken (with my printer anyway), can't select Reiserfs at install time, install routine not as configurale as Drake's, etc, etc.

If it works for you, then great. Go for it. For me, Drake is the distro of choice.

no prob LinuxGuru! I have been trying ot figure out what RH did with the GUI config tools - leaving only commnd line options would be pretty stupid and I was hoping Storm2k could let us know some of the capabilities.

Drake is

It's linux! how could it not be

storm2k · May 14th, 2002, 01:37 PM

i'll keep my redhat, thankyouverymuch. drake, i dunno, doesn't do it for me. loses something in the translation...

and to be fair, i can't get cups to work in either redhat OR drake. d'oh.

Ritalin Kid · May 14th, 2002, 01:41 PM

Quote:

we were ALL once such a newbie, and a distro should enable the newbie with windoze XPerience only to be successful
if that distro wants to compete with m$.

^Like me?