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    MAXTHON > FIREFOX

    For years I have been using the browser Maxthon, and I'm tired of it not being reviewed with other browswers in PC magazines and so on. Since it's based on IE it might be a tad slower if you have an outdated system, but the features make up for it! If you have a fast computer then I don't think there's any performance difference between maxthon and firefox, and you are just left with the extra features. MAXTHON IS THE BEST BROWSER and that's not debatable (just compare features to other browsers)
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    Yes lets compare security of Maxathon with other browsers!

    lets see iE requires what 1-2 IE patches a week?
    most exploits on the net are written for IE...

    and I'm not a huge fan of FF either

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    Might be a tad bit slower? Now there is an understatement.

    Testing has demonstrated IE7 is about 42 times slower in JavaScript processing than Webkit. Even IE8 is about 6 times slower in JavaScript processing than Webkit.

    If you want a Firefox comparison, Mozilla Minefield (currently Firefox 3.2 pre-alpha) is only a few percent slower than Webkit.

    Internet Explorer is currently so far out of the JavaScript performance game that it is not even funny. Sadly, the JavaScript engine of Opera (my favorite browser) is also currently just about as bad as IE8 for performance, comparatively speaking of course.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vass0922 View Post
    Yes lets compare security of Maxathon with other browsers!

    lets see iE requires what 1-2 IE patches a week?
    most exploits on the net are written for IE...

    and I'm not a huge fan of FF either
    Maxthon is based on IE... it's not IE though - Maxthon did their own patching and like I said I've been using Maxthon for years with no anti virus software or anything like that... and I've never had any problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RobRich View Post
    Might be a tad bit slower? Now there is an understatement.

    Testing has demonstrated IE7 is about 42 times slower in JavaScript processing than Webkit. Even IE8 is about 6 times slower in JavaScript processing than Webkit.

    If you want a Firefox comparison, Mozilla Minefield (currently Firefox 3.2 pre-alpha) is only a few percent slower than Webkit.

    Internet Explorer is currently so far out of the JavaScript performance game that it is not even funny. Sadly, the JavaScript engine of Opera (my favorite browser) is also currently just about as bad as IE8 for performance, comparatively speaking of course.
    Well I'm on a 600mhz laptop with 512mb of RAM - I doubt anybody out there has a much weaker computer then that and I only notice a difference when I have like 10 tabs open. Also, the features that Maxthon have save me more time so it makes up for taking an extra half second to open a new tab. Again I will say Maxthon is based on IE, but it's not IE - hence it doesn't have the problems that IE does. (In fact the new versions of IE steal features from Maxthon
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    The Microsoft Trident layout engine is not "patched" by Maxthon. AFAIK, Maxthon can apply filters to HTML conventions to block or alter content parsed by the layout engine, but that is not "patching" the MSHTML engine. That is applying content filtering, which you can accomplish with pretty much any modern browser by using a content filter proxy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darkertint View Post
    Well I'm on a 600mhz laptop with 512mb of RAM - I doubt anybody out there has a much weaker computer then that and I only notice a difference when I have like 10 tabs open. Also, the features that Maxthon have save me more time so it makes up for taking an extra half second to open a new tab.
    I am not referencing UI performance. I am talking about the JS engine, which is an important component for the "Web 2.0" era.

    It is apparent you have likely not encountered a browser offering a JavaScript engine with native machine code compilation, such as utilized by the Webkit SquirrelFish Extreme, Mozilla TraceMonkey, and Google V8 engines.

    Install a copy of Safari 4.0 beta, latest Mozilla Minefield nightly build, or Google Chrome; then use the SunSpider benchmark to realize the difference in JS performance between a highly optimized JS engine versus Microsoft's current JS engine.

    SunSpider JavaScript Benchmark

    Next, just in case the immense performance disparity if not enough, examine the compatibility of the MSHTL layout engine. For this test, try the industry standard Acid3 tests. Run the tests yourself. Compare results of the MSHTML engine to results delivered by Opera or Webkit, two browsers that have already achieved 100/100 scores in Acid3 testing.

    Acid3 Browser Test - The Web Standards Project

    Both SunSpider and Acid3 are industry-recognized web browser tests you can do personally with a minimum of effort, and I highly encourage you to try them.
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    Downclocked my notebook with a single-core Turion processor to only 800MHz. Here are some interesting numbers.

    Webkit nightly build r41199 from public SVN. Using Safari 4 beta as the frontend UI.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunSpider
    Total: 3990.2ms +/- 16.0%
    Mozilla Minefield nightly build 1.9.2a1pre Gecko/20090226 from public repository. JIT enabled.

    Quote Originally Posted by SunSpider
    Total: 4531.2ms +/- 3.8%
    Microsoft Internet Explorer 7 build 7.0.6002.16497

    Quote Originally Posted by SunSpider
    Total: Total: 119520.0ms +/- 2.8%
    I probably should have given up on the IE7 test, but I let it complete for personal curiosity's sake. It kept running, and running, and running, and running some more, and.... well, you likely get the point. Anyway, the spread between top (Webkit) to bottom (IE7) roughly equates to about a 30 times JavaScript performance difference on my system when clocked at 800MHz.
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    Thanks for the nice review RR.
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    Feel lucky I actually waited for IE7 to complete SunSpider.
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    Maxthon is not Internet Explorer

    One thing you guys miss in benchmarking Javascript is the fact that Maxthon does not use Internet Explorer's Javascript engine. Maxthon developers created their own interpreter for their browser.

    So these benchmarks comparing I.E. to Chrome and other WebKit browsers are interesting in their own right, but they may or may not be accurately applied to Maxthon.

    And FYI, early next year, Maxthon will release Max-3, an automatic hybrid browser that will in most instances automatically switch between rendering using Trident and rendering via WebKit.

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    Welcome to TechIMO!

    Not that I closely follow Maxthon development, but I am not aware of Maxthon ever having developed an its own JavaScript engine. Sure you are not talking about SFX instead?

    I am aware of Maxthon implementing Webkit, which offers SquirrelFish Extreme (SFX) for JavaScript. I suspect SFX could be what you are referencing, and yes, it is a radical performance difference from the JavaScript engine used by MSHTML.
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