Plug & Play Issues With WinXP Pro

**hifi** · January 29th, 2003, 10:10 PM

Hey folks,

I was wondering if anyone knew of a better way of disabling hardware detection in Windows XP than by just disabling plug & Play in the services section. I am sick and tired of having to do this and sick and tired of having windows XP install old outdated graphics drivers every time I uninstall the old ones to upgrade to the newest set. It seems to me that a while back I had this disabled, but I am not a Win XP guru, I only have it installed on my wife's computer.

Thanks in advance,

hifi

**hifi** · January 29th, 2003, 10:56 PM

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**iNeb** · January 29th, 2003, 11:02 PM

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**Bertus02** · January 29th, 2003, 11:05 PM

who are you? the forum police.

**linux_guru** · January 29th, 2003, 11:36 PM

Someone hell-bent on getting their post count up .....

**hifi** · January 29th, 2003, 11:50 PM

What the hell is wrong with you guys? Are you all bent on crapping all over my thread? Don't come here and crap ineb and not offer any solutions to my problem.

Do I LOOK like I need to get a higher post count? Have I EVER been known for that? DO I REALLY GIVE A SH$T ABOUT POST COUNT??? HELL NO! Are you folks looking to get your post count up by crapping all over my thread???? Get lost!!! Take a hike.

Now, calmly, let us get back to my problem. BTW You folks I just mentioned above can pm me if you have a problem with what I just said, no need to get a "post" for responding to me here right???

**goldenbuddha** · January 29th, 2003, 11:57 PM

Actually I think linux_guru is talking about iNeb getting his post count up, not you hifi =)

A suggestion, don't be offended, if your wifes comp is working well, why bother changing the video drivers? just leave it alone =)

**hifi** · January 30th, 2003, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by goldenbuddha
Actually I think linux_guru is talking about iNeb getting his post count up, not you hifi =)

A suggestion, don't be offended, if your wifes comp is working well, why bother changing the video drivers? just leave it alone =)

It's actually not working so hot...keeps getting these NV errors and I am wondering if it may not just be the fact that I have to overwrite the WinXP vid drivers with the Nvidia Det's that is causing the issue. Random lockups...etc....I was browsing around and saw that someone had posted possibly entering in through safe mode as an alternative as well, however I see that just as time consuming as disabling the service in windows itself....hmm.

hifi

...and linux_guru...if you were not refering to me, I apologize deeply...but if you were than so help me I'll....I'll

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**linux_guru** · January 30th, 2003, 12:04 AM

Take a "chill pill" HiFi. Didn't mean to crap on your thread, & wasn't referring to you.

**goldenbuddha** · January 30th, 2003, 12:06 AM

hmm sounds like you have a hardware conflict somewhere, do you have a piece of non regular piece of something in there? old school scanner interface card?

Any odd software?

And when Windows XP starts up, when it detects something new, isn't there an option to "Cancel" or "Skip" the detection? After which , you can install whatever driver you want.

**hifi** · January 30th, 2003, 12:11 AM

Do you have XP golden? It is a pain...I wish it would give me the option to cancel...that is actually what I posted this thread for....is there another way around this problem besides disabling p&p??? I don't know....it doesn't seem to be a hardware conflict either, though this is the first time I am running a PCI based vid card on this board (ASUS A7V266-E) so I am not certain if there is a bios setting I have overlooked either....I am just trying to narrow down my solutions....

**goldenbuddha** · January 30th, 2003, 12:14 AM

yes I do have XP, pro version tho.

When windows detect a new hardware (or non installed one) you will have that detecting hardware thing pop up, after which it will ask for more details regarding driver location. You can cancel at this point.

But from what I think your case is, Windows doesn't even give you this option, it just goes thru the motion of detecting and installing the driver for you.

You can do it the dirty way and just install the new driver over the old, I believe with newer Detonator drivers, you do not have to completely remove the old to use the new ones.

**hifi** · January 30th, 2003, 12:18 AM

Yes, but I think that is the whole problem...Nvidia recommends whole heartedly that you remove the old drivers and perform a clean install of the new. I am running Windows XP Professional as well. It just says (that silly little 'pop-up' bubble down in the right hand corner by the clock) "Found new hardware" and I try to cancle it by right clicking, hitting the "X" on the bubble everything...to no avail

it doesn't even give me the option to install my own drivers....there has to be a setting for this somewhere that I have overlooked.....it is pretty frustrating though....IMO....

**hifi** · January 30th, 2003, 12:32 AM

BTW I guess I can add what I am doing here too. I just built this system for my wife today, the components are:

ASUS A7V266-E
Athlon XP 1900+ (not oc')
512 Nanya PC2100 DDR
GeForce 4 MX420 (PCI Version)
WD 120 Gb (Special Edt.)
Antec 300Watt P/S
Windows XP Professional (No other software installed exept for the Via 4-in-ones and Nvidia's Det 40.72 drivers which worked with this card in my other system just fine.)

The motherboard, cpu and Vid card are rock solid stable as I ran the mobo and cpu in my old system for 1 1/2 years with no issues and the vid card is about as old, but came from my old hp computer (the kids get the old TNT 2 card now

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**goldenbuddha** · January 30th, 2003, 01:37 AM

Hey Hifi, theres a new version for Nvidia, version 41.09, have you tried that?

Its odd, theres barely any hardware to have a conflict with. I might sound redundant, have you ran Windows auto update to patch everything?

**hifi** · January 30th, 2003, 09:09 PM

Hey golden, I think I have this issue solved, but yet unresolved. It has to do with IRQ conflicts and the onboard CMEDIA sound chip. When I disable sound in the BIOS, my problems are solved. I never experianced the issue prior to this because I had always ran an AGP video card vs the PCI card I have in there now. I am just making an assumption, but by the way it sounds prior to locking up (the sound s-s-stutters and screeches a bit then the mouse freezes) I would almost say that the PCI bus is overloaded. When doing a search for this issue, I came across several sites confirming this with the A7V266-E motherboards...I am going to try and purchase a cheap little soundcard and see if that works. The problem with the onboard sound is that I can't assign an IRQ to it, I can only change the IRQ's of the other PCI slots and no matter where I put my NIC or Video card, it still causes issues. Thanks for the reply's dude....

hifi

**goldenbuddha** · January 30th, 2003, 09:18 PM

I am sorry I couldn't help. But thanks for letting me know the possible issues, since my wife too has CMedia onboard audio =) but only 1 video card.

Good Luck!

A cheap and decent card for audio would be Creatives PCI 128 card, its simple, does what it needs to do, no frills, no surround, but good sound.

**hifi** · January 30th, 2003, 09:25 PM

Originally posted by goldenbuddha

A cheap and decent card for audio would be Creatives PCI 128 card, its simple, does what it needs to do, no frills, no surround, but good sound.

Thanks, I am going shopping at NEWEGG right now