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RedFury · January 13th, 2004, 08:07 PM

<in the voice of the Rock> Finally! Redfury has come to his senses! He has upgraded to Windows XP. No longer will he suffer through interminable BSD's and his screen savers locking up the system! Nor will he endure the Rip Van Winkle of Win98 coming out of sleep mode, only to lose it's train of thought and stop working! Can you smelllalalalalala, what Microsoft is cooking?!

They're cooking up a bunch of Candy-A$$ed Non-Operating Systems, that's what they are doing!

Huff...huff...huff....

Okay, I think I've calmed down....Know your role and shut your....!.....ah, oh...mmmkay, I think I've got it out now..

Okay, here's the dealio. Upgraded to XP from 98se, now some of my programs don't work and need to be reinstalled, but windows installer locks up and quits. Microsoft Knowledge Base says I need to hack the registry to get my Admin tools to work ( which they didn't either ), and for programs to install. Now, I did the registry hack and got my admin tools working, but I still can't install or even uninstall the programs that don't currently work. I can uninstall programs that do work, just not the ones that don't.

I get the error 1606 and the exact issue is the first one listed in teh Knowledge base.

Anyone else run into this problem, and what is the work around.

And don't tell me to format and do the full install, I'm not ready for that yet. I'm either going to revert back to that old 98se POS BSOD OS, or go find that bottle of Cherry flavored Vodka I just bought and make some real cherry cokes for myself...

Gettinbye · January 13th, 2004, 08:20 PM

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Originally posted by RedFury

And don't tell me to format and do the full install, I'm not ready for that yet.

Guess that doesn't leave me anything to say

Okay, I'll say it anyway...the full version will ALWAYS be better than the upgrade version. If you're not ready to jump the 98 ship yet, try dual-boot for a bit. Actually, there are some (mostly older)programs that won't run on XP even with compatibility mode, so a dual-boot is not a bad way to go...
I'm assuming the regedit you tried was the one found here:
http://support.microsoft.com/default...en-us%3B315352
I have tried upgrading to XP from Millenium, and although I didn't have specific errors, I found the same situation (where not all of my installed programs worked). If you revert back to 98SE and uninstall all the programs that are not currently working, and re-install them after doing the upgrade again, you should be alright.
P.S.-would be simpler to do what you said you're not ready for...

RedFury · January 13th, 2004, 08:40 PM

Bah, you're supposed to tell me it's going to be alright!

I suppose I could dual boot, but I'm looking to replace 98, not run 2 OS's. I will probably just end up reverting back for now, and when I eventually get that 200 gig HDD, I'll dual boot with Linux and XP.

Here's my challenge to Microsoft though....if you are going to sell a system as an upgraded version, make sure it's going to continue to work with/ and or have support for programs that worked on the previous dominant system. Never had an issue upgrading from 95 at all, why should I expect to deal with a Mac OSX problem from the compatibility leader?

there's gotta be a work around though, because it is pointing to an issue with the new way XP deals with multiple users. Perhaps if I deleted the other users from the profile?

Gettinbye · January 13th, 2004, 09:53 PM

As far as your challenge to MS, I would love to see it. I'm concerned about the possibility of upgrading to Longhorn in the future for that very reason....
As far as deleting other user profiles-If you try it please post back if it works

Blazer06 · January 13th, 2004, 10:06 PM

Microsoft doesnt care. in fact they want to force you to upgrade.. not only the os but all or most of your proggrys

IBM on the other hand makes everything backwards compatible. one of the many reasons mucrosoft and ibm split at dos.

Blaze

davidamarkley · January 13th, 2004, 10:06 PM

Well, as I can somewhat understand your frustration, I also can understand why some things aren't working.

For one thing, when you upgraded from Win 95 to Win 98, it didn't change alot, yes I know that it added a lot of features, but it still had DOS, and it still was a 9x kernel. When you upgraded to XP, a few BIG things changed. For one, you don't have DOS, so, any DOS programs might not work in XP. Two, you don't have the old 9x kernel anymore, you're running on an optimized NT kernel, so that makes some programs that were written only for the 9x kernel simply stop working. Three, (and maybe the biggest change for older programs) you don't use .vxd files anymore(virtual device drivers) so any program that relied on those, will not work in XP. There are some options as far as trying to use the compatabilty modes, but that works mediocre at best.

The best choice would be to either clean install XP, and buy updates/versions for your software. Depending on the software, you might be able to find a freeware replacement, or inexpensive alternative.

Or, you could just revert back to Win 98 if you simply HAVE to have those programs.

Then, later when you get that HDD, just dual-boot between Linux and 98 or XP.

David

Scott Tiger · January 13th, 2004, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by Blazer06
IBM on the other hand makes everything backwards compatible.

Guess you've never had the *cough* pleasure *cough* of dealing with DB2's odbc drivers for Windows.

Sorry to hear about your upgrade problems Red. I will agree with everyone else though and say that formatting is probably going to be the best way for you to go.

RedFury · January 13th, 2004, 10:23 PM

And that's why I prefaced it with not wanting to format...oh well, it usually is the best solution anyway. My biggest deal is that I bought a program for $50 that I absolutely love, and I don't know if it has an upgrade for XP....I'll have to check I guess.

Well, rest assured, I'll be back here when I get ready to make my mulit-faceted-OS-laden-hdd

jmichna · January 14th, 2004, 08:57 AM

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Originally posted by RedFury
And that's why I prefaced it with not wanting to format...oh well, it usually is the best solution anyway....

Just think, your PC will -- once again -- be pure, clean, virginal

sao95 · January 14th, 2004, 11:02 PM

i've never had cherry flavored vodka, is it good? Oh and about your problem, I have no idea

if your question was where's the on button I might have been able to help