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    Going to school for Networking Specialist. Need some input

    I am about to attend a technical college and receive an AAS as a networking specialist NETWORKING SPECIALIST (CIN3) I can choose between Microsoft, Cisco, or Linux operating systems. I am most likely going to choose the Cisco route. I will begin working on my CCNA and CCNP while I am earning my degree. I also might pick up a few network security certs. My main concern is being able to find an IT related job after graduation. I also have a TS/SCI government clearance. I am only 20 yrs old and I still have plenty of time to receive my BS degree, but I have bills and I work 40 hours a week now. I am currently an Unloader for the Academy sports and outdoors distribution center. I understand I may have to take a help desk job starting out and work my way up. Someone please advise me and give me your input on whether I will be able to find ANYTHING IT related. Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PVTBallew View Post
    I am about to attend a technical college and receive an AAS as a networking specialist NETWORKING SPECIALIST (CIN3) I can choose between Microsoft, Cisco, or Linux operating systems. I am most likely going to choose the Cisco route. I will begin working on my CCNA and CCNP while I am earning my degree. I also might pick up a few network security certs. My main concern is being able to find an IT related job after graduation. I also have a TS/SCI government clearance. I am only 20 yrs old and I still have plenty of time to receive my BS degree, but I have bills and I work 40 hours a week now. I am currently an Unloader for the Academy sports and outdoors distribution center. I understand I may have to take a help desk job starting out and work my way up. Someone please advise me and give me your input on whether I will be able to find ANYTHING IT related. Thanks in advance.

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    Since I don't live in Georgia, know its economy or even know anything other than its the pecan state ... I'm not (nor will most/all of us) are going to be able to help you. This is where talking to your guidance councilor, your departmental councilor, job placement councilor and other college resources come in handy. You pay out the arse for your education so get to know the ancillary staff that comes with your hefty tuition.

    You may want to check for a job within your school that isnt in the jock department. Unless they just toss you anywhere, apply for a new job. Look for internships, your college should have someone that specifically works on this.

    As an aside and totally riding the soap box. You may want to consider what you want to do long term with this degree. If you think this is going to be glamorous and paying your college loans and then some so you can retire at 30 ... you may want to give yourself a bit of a wake up call. Working 40 hours and doing school may seem tough but its not going to stop. I work 45+ hr weeks, commute an hour each way, find food and scare it to death so i can eat it, and then find a couple of hours to bullshit and relax to try and get to sleep around midnight and be responsible enough to get six hours of sleep a night. I don't hate my life but i definitely know that im putting in my time now to hopefully catch a break later.

    Since your 20 now, unless your amazing at networking and can really shine in the two years of your program to land something after ... don't count on getting a job right away. You may just want to keep letting those student loans wrack up and get your BS. The news is reporting that we are the most educated generation in the history of the world and you do not want to find yourself on the wrong end of that curve.


    Cheers.


    PS: As an English student myself (yes i do IT for a living) you may want to brush up on your grammar for college. Technical writing is often important when writing documentation and it comes in handy.

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    TS/SCI? move to DC
    nuff said!


    btw, I live in DC so this is from experience and not just BS

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    Quote Originally Posted by nemowolf View Post

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    Monster.com
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    Since I don't live in Georgia, know its economy or even know anything other than its the pecan state ... I'm not (nor will most/all of us) are going to be able to help you. This is where talking to your guidance councilor, your departmental councilor, job placement councilor and other college resources come in handy. You pay out the arse for your education so get to know the ancillary staff that comes with your hefty tuition.

    You may want to check for a job within your school that isnt in the jock department. Unless they just toss you anywhere, apply for a new job. Look for internships, your college should have someone that specifically works on this.

    As an aside and totally riding the soap box. You may want to consider what you want to do long term with this degree. If you think this is going to be glamorous and paying your college loans and then some so you can retire at 30 ... you may want to give yourself a bit of a wake up call. Working 40 hours and doing school may seem tough but its not going to stop. I work 45+ hr weeks, commute an hour each way, find food and scare it to death so i can eat it, and then find a couple of hours to bullshit and relax to try and get to sleep around midnight and be responsible enough to get six hours of sleep a night. I don't hate my life but i definitely know that im putting in my time now to hopefully catch a break later.

    Since your 20 now, unless your amazing at networking and can really shine in the two years of your program to land something after ... don't count on getting a job right away. You may just want to keep letting those student loans wrack up and get your BS. The news is reporting that we are the most educated generation in the history of the world and you do not want to find yourself on the wrong end of that curve.


    Cheers.


    PS: As an English student myself (yes i do IT for a living) you may want to brush up on your grammar for college. Technical writing is often important when writing documentation and it comes in handy.

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    you quoted me with no additional comments? Not even a witty retort?

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    whats wrong with your post nemo

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    Nothing?

    Perhaps lacking a bit more sarcasim and wit?

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    whats wrong with your post nemo

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    not goin to be fun

    Without covering the other two (MS and RHEL) you will not get a job administrating a network. You can cover cisco and the certifications, but that alone is the bare minimum requirement to be a cable internet installer for an ISP. The only way you will get a job in the IT world with this degree is with experience in the field, so either an internship otherwise the latter of working the bottom rung help desk job. Chances are you will have to go back to school for a bachelor on the side as that's starting to be a common trend in the IT world, requiring at least a bachelor of alternative studies on the side, aka another over-priced-useless-piece of paper.

    To be completely honest, you can learn networking through the cisco website and take their certifications without any college help and you'll be par with someone that has this degree, as it's useless without "years of practical experience".

    Sorry if this is too late, and sorry if my take appears pessamistic, but i've lived through it all. A majority of what the college will tell you is bs, they just want your money they could care less if you find a job. Not having more than 1 college degree in the IT world is like only having a high school diploma in the first decade of the 2000's, some companies will ignore you.

    The most annoying part? After you get your "years of experience" allowing you access to the jobs you already went to college to learn how to do, you've antiquated. All the training you received on the technology that exists, is now becoming out-dated, and you have to return to school. If you weren't lucky enough to land a job that will pay for your return to school, you will be paying for it yet again. Get used to returning to school at least twice a decade to re-do this education bit all over again.

    I hope it worked out better for you if you're already enrolled. When I enrolled in this program it covered the entirety of the Cisco networking portion, the Microsoft 03-08r2 server releases and rhel centos 6-ubuntu 12.10. All that says on a piece of paper is "lacks real life experience" even if I graduated with a 3.9 GPA a semester early and picked up 200 hours of internship. I was still considered barely qualified for helpdesk because I didn't have another degree in something unrelated to IT (aparently if i would have got a degree in something like liberal arts i would have been more qualified to be a network tech? yeah welcome to the joke that is the american job market)

    Anyways after all this bs I just left America, and now do consultant work (with my same degree) in different countries. If I would have known I'd have to leave my country to find a job with this degree I might have reconsidered when enrolling, oh well too late now!

    EDIT: I suppose it's fair to mention this took place in the upper mid-west, as I can imagine it's possible the ENTIRE country of America isn't going to be 100% the same.
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