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    Cisco certification question - doing CCNP exams when CCNA is expiring??

    I've already acquired my CCNA back in January. It'll be awhile before I'll complete the 4 exams for CCNP designation. Question is if I start on one or two of the CCNP exams, and my CCNA cert expires, will I have to redo the CCNP exams that I've already completed?

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    No...you can get the CCNP without having the CCNA..

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    Really? I always thought that CCNA was a pre-requesite (sp?)
    Glad to hear if it really is the case.

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    Holding a valid CCNA is a prerequesite, you will automatically renew your CCNA when you get your CCNP.

    http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/...rams/ccnp.html

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    Ok then, but the question is will the CCNP exams I do (maybe one or two between now and my CCNA expiration, have to be redone again when my CCNA cert expires before I complete my CCNP?

    That's the lingering question in my mind. Thx.
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    Hmm...I thought CCNP was valid for 3yrs and CCNA was only 2yrs, guess I was wrong. CCNA is valid for 3yrs as well, guess that still gives me plenty of time to work on my CCNP.

    I should really cut the slack and get my arse back in gear while there's still time.

    Thx,
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    I would assume that you might, but not sure, I would think as long as you passed the exams, they would be good, but until you pass all 4, thats the date when your CCNP goes into effect. I go onto the cisco site quite a bit, and I think I will ask that and find out for ya. You bring a good point that needs clarification. I will post back any answer I get.
    It seems to be a catch-22 type deal, huh?

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    here ya go, I think this will help you out:
    (from a response at cisco's website)
    I just used passing 2 of the four tests as an example.



    Once you pass all the requirements to complete a certification a "timer" (so to speak) starts the day you pass the exam. This influences how long you are certified for.

    The question you are asking is a common one and is answered as follows.

    If you pass your CCNA (which is of course valid for 3 years) and it eventually runs out and in that time you have part completed half of your CCNP (you said 2 exams) the CCNP exams will still be seen as individually passed.

    You should only have to complete the CCNA and the remaining 2 CCNP exams to get your CCNP. If the gentleman completes the remaining 2 CCNP exams first he will neither be a CCNA or a CCNP until he recertifies for his CCNA.

    Try to remember that the exam certification database is just a logical database which uses a basic formula to arrive at a certification decision.

    For example it could be seen like this...

    "If person X has passed exam A (the CCNA exam), he is a CCNA AND if he has passed exam B,C,D,E(say the CCNP exams) he is a CCNA and a CCNP.

    But IF person X no longer holds a pass for exam A (i.e the CCNA has expired) he is NO LONGER a CCNA or a CCNP.

    Anyone can look into the certification tracking database to see what ticks they have against which exams. These ticks are what the database uses to decide if all the requirements are met and once they are all met the certification box turns blue to show a complete certification.

    In this gentlemans case, I am sure he will find that he has two ticks towards his CCNP certification regardless of if he still has his CCNA.

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    Oh, I see, I see....that makes sense and seems fair the way it works out. Thx very much for the much needed clarification desmocat You da man

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    is CCNA, CCNP or MSCE a good course to take to fill up a timetable at university? or is it a full time deal?

    just decided to ask here as it seems pointless creating a new thread for it

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    Lemon, the CCNA class would be a good one to take if that's the kind of stuff you want to do. You might need to look for a uni(or maybe your school has one..) that is a Cisco Learning Academy, in that they have the curriculum and the instructors cert'ed by Cisco to teach the material. The CCNA course here is 4 semesters(about 2 years worth). It was like 2 hr,twice a week for me when I took it.

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    When I took CCNA, it was a 2 month deal with quite a bit of practical training, a midterm and a final practical exam. Those who were CCNA certified before the course completed were not required to complete the course. But that's just foolish imo, since you've paid for it already, why not complete it and get the extra experience/knowledge?

    I'm not sure if Universities offer any of the MCSE, CCNA, or CCNP programs. They're more suited for colleges and technical colleges I think. Never went to Uni so I wouldn't know for sure.

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    Lightbulb http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/pdf/ccsp_faq2.pdf

    12. When I get my Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP), will that renew my CCNA certification?
    The higher-level certification holds the greater value. Therefore achieving and maintaining the higher certification renews the lower level general certification. If a prerequisite for another certification is CCNA and you hold a Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP), the higher certification acts as the pre-requisite.

    13. Will CCIE certification recertify my CCSP?
    Yes. Any CCIE certification or CCIE recertification exam will recertify your CCSP.

    14. Will CCSP certification recertify CCNA? Will I get an updated CCNA certificate?
    CCSP recertifies CCNA. Your CCNA start-date will be reset to the date you were issued the CCSP certification but you will not automatically receive a new Certificate or wallet-card. The Certification Tracking System will reflect the new CCNA date.

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    http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/.../ccsp_faq2.pdf

    12. When I get my Cisco Certified Security Professional (CCSP), will that renew my CCNA certification?
    The higher-level certification holds the greater value. Therefore achieving and maintaining the higher certification
    renews the lower level general certification. If a prerequisite for another certification is CCNA and you hold a Cisco
    Certified Security Professional (CCSP), the higher certification acts as the pre-requisite.

    13. Will CCIE certification recertify my CCSP?
    Yes. Any CCIE certification or CCIE recertification exam will recertify your CCSP.
    14. Will CCSP certification recertify CCNA? Will I get an updated CCNA certificate?
    CCSP recertifies CCNA. Your CCNA start-date will be reset to the date you were issued the CCSP certification but
    you will not automatically receive a new Certificate or wallet-card. The Certification Tracking System will reflect the
    new CCNA date.

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    You brought back a pretty old thread.

    The CCNA exam will be renewed upon passing the ICD2 exam again, or any exam above it. For instance, you could take one of the 4 exams required for CCNP and that would renew your CCNA if you passed.

    CCNA - Career Certifications & Paths - Cisco Systems

    CCNA Recertification
    CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To recertify, either pass the current CCNA exam, or pass the ICND2 exam, or pass any 642 professional level or Cisco Specialist exam (excluding Sales Specialist exams), or pass a current CCIE written exam.

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    hi am completed BE(CSE) and CCNA in india.. can i continue doing my cisco certifications in abroad? is there any chance to get visa for doing certifications in abroad?

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    That is up the country you will be getting your certification. I doubt it

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    oh thanx ..
    After got my CCNA now am doing CCNP.. can i get job easily? bcoz IT's current trend is little bad know..
    Just i completed my college life so i dono wats d right step i've to move now.. pls say ur guidance

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    Quote Originally Posted by praveenkumar88 View Post
    oh thanx ..
    After got my CCNA now am doing CCNP.. can i get job easily? bcoz IT's current trend is little bad know..
    Just i completed my college life so i dono wats d right step i've to move now.. pls say ur guidance
    You shouldnt have too much of a time getting a job with your cert depending on the region your in and saturation of people with your qualifications and similar backgrounds.

    To further enhance your hireability i would strongly recommend ore english classes with a focus on grammar and localization to make interactions with native english speakers more productive. You may find that if you are interviewing with someone who has a hard time understanding what your trying to say, you will not look as strong in their eyes because it will be harder to get you to mesh with the current team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by praveenkumar88 View Post
    oh thanx ..
    After got my CCNA now am doing CCNP.. can i get job easily? bcoz IT's current trend is little bad know..
    Just i completed my college life so i dono wats d right step i've to move now.. pls say ur guidance
    Do you have any hands on a real network environment? If not I would say you will have a difficult time trying to find a job (espically right now).

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