Can't find 4 year

[joeschmo88]

hi, im having trouble finding a 4 year university that offers a degree in CISS. i really want that bachelor's but as of now im am currently getting the A.S. i live in northern california and the only degrees ive found are computer science/programming/engineering...yet no CISS. any advice?

[usslindstrom]

I might be mistaken, but the list of certs that Cisco has are as follows:

Expert Level
CCIE

Professional Level
CCSP
CCNP
CCVP
CCIP
CCDP

Associate Level
CCNA
CCDA

Specialty Level
SECURITY AND VPN
IP COMMUNICATIONS
WIRELESS

If you're asking about the CCIE, then I believe a bachelors' degree has to be obtained BEFORE you get the cert. I could be mistaken.

[joeschmo88]

i have no knowledge of certifications and CISCO, can someone explain the whole thing? i am going for computer information systems security as of now...but what is this CISCO about?

[GroundZero3]

uss i believe CISS is something like Computer Information Security Systems or something. Which i believe has nothing to do with CCIE or any other Cisco certification.

If you're asking about the CCIE, then I believe a bachelors' degree has to be obtained BEFORE you get the cert. I could be mistaken.

I have never heard of this? When do a college degree depend on getting a certification? I think you are confused

[usslindstrom]

It's the CISSP cert. My mistake, not the CCIE.

To sit for the CISSP examination, a candidate must:

Submit the examination fee.
Assert that he or she possesses a minimum of three years of professional experience in the information security field. (Please note that this requirement will increase to four years experience or three years plus a college degree for prospective candidates effective January 01, 2003).
Complete the Candidate Agreement, attesting to the truth of his or her assertions regarding professional experience and legally commit to adhere to the CISSP Code of Ethics.
Successfully answer four questions regarding criminal history and related background.

[GroundZero3]

Ah thanks for the information, that is a weird certification

[usslindstrom]

No Prob GZ3.

JoeSchmo88: In any case, if you're interesting in finding out about Cisco certs, please don't take my word for it... you should check out http://www.cisco.com/web/learning/index.html. Keep in mind that they offer are all proprietary (meaning, it's for their own stuff).

If you're interested in gaining networking knowledge that ISN'T vendor specific, you can check out CompTIA's Network+ cert here: http://certification.comptia.org/network/.

In any case, it's recommended you get the A+ cert first: http://certification.comptia.org/a/.

As far as college is concerned, hopefully somebody else can chime in on the subject, since I'm only goin' the cert route at this point in time.

[Bootlegger]

Here's something I posted in response to someone else on the Cisco Alumni forums regarding 4-year Bachelors programs:

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I'm currently attending the University of Wisconsin - Stout, majoring in IT Management, minoring in Computer Science. I love the school--from the core learning experience to the campus and extra-curricular activities, such as intramural sports and (IT) clubs (I also must mention PONG, of course hehe [People's Organization of Network Gaming http://pong.uwstout.edu ]).

For some info on the degree program, check this link out:
http://www.uwstout.edu/programs/bsitm/

To check the IT Mgmt site out, go here:
http://itm.uwstout.edu

When it comes down to it, you will not come close to getting the quality experience/education from a "tech college" as compared the one you would get at Stout. The lab is first-class, and the professors know their stuff. I suggest checking Stout out.

Good luck!

P.S. I'm posting this from my work (internship), which happens to be a Fortune '50' company. So, those are some "results" of a Stout education, if you happened to care.

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