Poll: Why do secular elitists hate religion???

[cyphen]

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Originally Posted by Beemer

I'll just watch for a while. lol

I don't mean to pick on you specifically, Beemer, but you have demonstrated a marked intolerance toward religion and the religious, and i'm just curious as to why, and also curious to see how people view your position.

Oh, and regarding your signature "Beware of promises of life where death is prerequisite." death is a prerequisite for all who are born. The life that religion promises comes after what we are all naturally subject to.

It's true that SOME have perverted religion to expedite the process (those who drank the kool-aid) and some who have expedited the process at the cost of innocents (suicide bomber terrorists).

[Pexster]

First, I reject the term "secular elitist." Second, I reject the premise that Beemer (and he can correct me if I'm wrong) "hates religion." I tend to think he would be more aligned with what Theo posted. (I know I am.)

Hold to whatever spiritual beliefs float your boat. But if said beliefs are not universal (or nearly so), e.g., murder is wrong, keep them out of the public arena and inside your own coven or head or church or wherever you practice whatever rituals you practice. Believe me, we'll get along just fine.

[The Real Bingo]

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Originally Posted by cyphen

Or was religion just blamed for many of the wars that were? Is war not about survival and power? Thus is it not an affect of human existance rather than religion? Is religion any MORE likely to cause war than government - or ANY organization at that?

War intices and provokes war. It's an easy way to separate who's on your side and who's not. If you're not with my religion, then you're against me and my fellow people. It makes an easy excuse to start war. The Muslims hate the Jews. I don't know why, but that's how it is, and it's a religious thing. The Muslims hate the Christians. When I say Muslims, I'm talking about the extremists who tape C4 to themselves, by the way. The moderates in any religion don't cause trouble...it's those who are so fervent about it that cause trouble. It's their way or the highway.

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Then how do you explain the advance of science throughout the ages, TRB, which was done by religious people with religious people in power? I'm religious, but that hasn't kept me from a strong scientific questioning and interest/investigatory attitude.

[uethello]

Religion fights the advance of science. Yes, there might have been a few scientists who made discoveries or whatnot that were in line with religion. This is the exception. Heck, religious types are *still* fighting evolution.

[TOAD6147]

Perhaps we could just link this poll to here. It's a good place for it.

[Beemer]

The thread doesn't bother me cyphen. Don't worry bout little ol' me.

I'll survive. Some how....sniff sniff....

Everyone let loose! That's what the community is all about.

[Tramp429]

I don't 100% agree with "both of the last two" but selected it.

[cunokyle]

I should have selected the last option...I selected that religion is responsible for violence and war...however, I would have liked to see an option that said something along the lines of "Because religion is a hoax" or something like that.

[msterzer]

I think religion does cause wars. History shows that. What does wars cause? Thats when science becomes paramount to winning. So religion does support science although its denied by those most religious of folks. Iv'e no problem with religious folks, just don't push it off on me. I believe in the golden rules, who ever made them up and let it go there. Treat other folks as you want to be treated and everything should be fine. The fanatics don't get it and I don't get them. How they treat me will be returned in spades given the chance. Thats not the way I'd like it but some people just can't live with others and its primarily because of religion. That a sad thing but what can we do?

[surreal]

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Originally Posted by cyphen

Please explain how this opinion poll is flawed in its premise? What do you think is the reason that secular elitists attack the religious and the very idea of religion??? Or are you saying it's flawed because you don't believe it's happening?

It's flawed because of the way you use the word wrongly in the options.

You are just like Beemer, if someone doesn't see it your way it's wrong.