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Old November 7th, 2006, 02:30 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Allegations of fraud cloud ACORN voter drive again

"ST. LOUIS — The grass-roots political group ACORN became a player in U.S. politics by combing streets, signing new voters and giving a voice to the poor.

Thousands of people in the St. Louis area know ACORN workers as the visitors at the door reminding them to vote. The group is part of a coalition backing an increase in Missouri's minimum wage on the Nov. 7 ballot.

But the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now is becoming better known for accusations of voter fraud, a reputation it says is unfair.

Meanwhile, a longtime ACORN worker in St. Louis who was fired this month is accusing the group of directing its paid workers to go door-to-door to campaign for Senate candidate Claire McCaskill, a Democrat.

The group denies the claim, saying that while no law bars them from supporting a candidate, it has not endorsed McCaskill in her challenge to Sen. Jim Talent, a Republican.

ACORN fired Josephine Perkins this month after a co-worker accused her of swiping a purse at the organization's office, 4304 Manchester Avenue.

Perkins, a longtime city activist who worked for ACORN for 11 years, denies the theft and says her bosses fabricated the charge because she spoke out about what she thought was improper electioneering for McCaskill. The theft of the purse was reported to St. Louis police; no one has been charged.

In a twist, Perkins was hired days later as a temporary worker by the city's Republican elections director, Scott Leiendecker, an outspoken ACORN critic.

Cards are subpoenaed

What proportion of voter registrations turned in by ACORN were really fraudulent or incomplete was unclear Friday and may remain so until after the election. The U.S. attorney's office has subpoenaed thousands of registration cards flagged by Leiendecker's office as suspicious.

Last week, Leiendecker sent letters to 5,000 voters registered by ACORN, asking them to verify their registrations on the phone and with signatures returned by mail.

Kevin Whalen, a national spokesman for ACORN, criticized the action as "wrong and illegal." Leiendecker "can't make up extra steps just because he doesn't like us," Whalen said.

Leiendecker said indications were that 10 percent to 15 percent of the 5,000 registrations set aside were legitimate.

"I know that we got several individuals who said they did not fill out these cards," he said.

Many of the cards appeared to be signed by the same person, Leiendecker said. The forms included three from dead people and one from a 16-year-old."
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Old November 7th, 2006, 03:02 PM     #2 (permalink)
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Problem is when you pay people get registrations, you invite fraud. They all have to meet quotas. I had a friend who worked for a republican drive in Cali who admited he knew some were doing this (wouldn't be suprised if he was one of them). We need to stop paying and make it voluntary.
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Old November 7th, 2006, 03:31 PM     #3 (permalink)
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ACORN was founded on the premise of voter fraud... it's not accidental.. This groups has a history, as do the people who created it and fund it....
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Old November 7th, 2006, 03:39 PM     #4 (permalink)
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They both do it, I was encouraged to register in front of a Wal Mart by a republican group who actually tried to tell me I didnt need to check off the party affiliation. I played with him a bit then checked off Libertarian. I watched them do it to several other people as well.

Now I'm just registered as independant.
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you don't have to denote any party affiliation to register to vote...
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Old November 7th, 2006, 04:12 PM     #6 (permalink)
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No but you need to denote that you choose not to denote.
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Old November 7th, 2006, 04:36 PM     #7 (permalink)
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i'm not sure about that... i don't recall seeing that on mine... maybe your state's different...

but i don't see how that's anything like what ACORN does... ACORN is dispicable.

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Old November 7th, 2006, 07:52 PM     #8 (permalink)
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Dude I don't put any weight in anything that obviously is a republican or democrat hack site. Come on you are smart enough to think for yourself!
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Old November 12th, 2006, 01:08 PM     #9 (permalink)
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Front, David's a unique guy. he used to be a radical liberal in the 60s. A communist in america working to overthrow the government and make us a communist country. Because he thought it was a system that would create equality.

He still holds to the ideals that put him in the midst of 60s radicals... ideals like equality and everything else... but he saw the reality of what it was he was supporting and did a 180.

Liberals have had every chance to object to discover the networks. Very few facts have been challenged. The ones that were were rather miniscule - like somebody's title - and were corrected. The only complaint that really got registered against discover the network (aside from the general - hey, we just don't like it!) was that it put everybody in the same category. It put Barbara Streisand in the same database with Stalin.

This was defended by saying that the site by design is a dictionary of the left. That means including everybody - whether they stand for the same methodologies or not.

I think it's disingenuous to the truth to shut out an entire faction of thought simply because it is obviously a faction of thought. Point of fact, David is a thinker and relishes in debate. He's not a talking points guy. He engages in real debate. Whether or not he comes out on the side of conservatism should be irrelevant to a REAL independent thinker. I find his site, his interviews, his books to be some of the few places where there IS real thought and debate weighing opposing arguments.

I indeed do think for myself. But i find david to be a great contributor and a great thinker. Were i to ignore him, it would be to my own detriment.

If you're looking to get information only from sources that are uninterested and pure, i think you'll find your reading rather slim. And by that very fact, rather limited and myopic, lacking in diversity of thought.

But back on the subject of ACORN, you don't need to rely on discoverthenetwork... the founders have published their works in the Nation magazine... a patently pro-commie rag.... it flatly showed the Piven plan back when it was aimed at flooding the welfare offices with people who didn't necessarily qualify with the aim of bankrupting welfare, forcing a federal response and opening an important door for communism to take root. Of course, they didn't call it communism. One of the current terms used is Progressivism. Same old ideas, slick new marketing. (actually, it's not even new marketing... commies in the 30s were pushing the term "progressive")
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