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July 29th, 2008, 11:29 PM
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Ron Paul - Define life at conception in law, as scientific statement. (Feb 2008)
Here's the rest. Ron Paul on the Issues
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August 1st, 2008, 12:24 AM
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I used to take a stance more like Beemer regarding abortion, but I'm starting to see the futility in being so severely devided on the issue. To be quick on my take and avoid turning this into an abortion debate, the two sides need to come to a...yup, compromise. There needs to be a point at which a fetus is considered a baby, then move the latest possible abortion term 2-3 weeks prior to that for a buffer, and make it so that after that point the fetus is a living being. I don't know if most of the religious zealots would be willing to make such a compromise, but I really feel there are far more freedoms on the table than abortions so I cannot dismiss the few people who are standing up for what I believe in simply because they are imperfect or not 100% on track with my beliefs. Yes, he's supported racism in a manner I find completely abhorant to freedom, and he's brought religion into a document that had no religion in it. But I MUST support those who are more honest and coherent in matters that I see far superior to these failings. I will gladly put RP aside and support a better candidate when I find one - this isn't about winning, this is about bringing integrity and freedom back to the table.
There are enough differences between those I currently stand behind to help diversify against these shortcomings, however it is ultimately needed that We [All] The People start to realize that politics can't be left to the corrupt and ignorant - we must all start taking part as it is politics that rule our lives from every aspect, and oppression is only becoming more severe as we use the insanely pathetic excuse that politics are too corrupt for us - essentially admitting there's a problem and somehow rationalizing that means we should NOT be addressing the problem because we think we know how to fix it. That last part wasn't directed at you Beemer...I think that's what we call a poor segue.
Back to Ron Paul and so many of the messages that he supports that I feel address the core of the degradation of our freedoms as we progress into our own Nazi/Stalin like era. Political Radar: Ventura to Appear at Paul Shadow Convention
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August 19th, 2008, 01:51 PM
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August 26th, 2008, 03:29 PM
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| Quote: | Hardcore RP delegates to the Republican national convention hope to convince enough McCain delegates to abstain on the first ballot to deny the fascist neocon the nomination, with the hope of eventually nominating Ron. They rightly point out that, as St. Thomas Aquinas said, an unjust law is no law at all, so anyone with a conscience is not required to vote for McCain, no matter what their state government says; indeed, just the opposite.
Of course, the hardcores have absolutely no chance, since anyone the party chooses to be a McCain delegate is evil. Still, the RP guys and gals have worked their hearts out for many months, and spent lots of money they can't afford. Even though they are doomed to defeat, who can tell them not to do what they believe to be right?
Here is my only advice: the St. Paul convention, like the Denver one, is a key State-legitimizing event, with much of the power elite in attendance. They are funded by the taxpayers, and by the military-industrial-petro complex, in arrogant display. Since 9/11 especially, the conventions are totalitarian regimes in miniature (and examples of what they'd like the whole of America to look like). Their jackbooted thugs will not hesitate to gas you, taser you, beat you into a bloody pulp, and then put you into one of their animal cages for years. Do not do anything that gives them even the slighest excuse.
UPDATE from Tim Swanson: "To add insult to injury, the $100 million security detail for both conventions is also being funded by taxpayers. Why not just hold the conventions on military bases?" | |
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August 26th, 2008, 03:42 PM
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I will be interested to see if the corporate media give the Ron Paul faction the kind of attention and coverage that they are giving the Clinton faction. Methinks not.
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August 26th, 2008, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Pexster I will be interested to see if the corporate media give the Ron Paul faction the kind of attention and coverage that they are giving the Clinton faction. Methinks not. | I don't know if Ron Paul commands the same interest level. Clintons are more newsworthy by todays standards. |
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August 26th, 2008, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Epidemic I don't know if Ron Paul commands the same interest level. Clintons are more newsworthy by todays standards. | Ron Paul says things that most people shy away from.
For some reason it seems that most Americans would rather be told a lie,or some fancy story shrouded in bullshit, rather than the cold hard truth.
Ron Paul acted too logically... was too honest.
HE should be there on the podiums instead of McCain.
But, I'll still take McCain over Obama as President any day of the week and twice on sunday.
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August 26th, 2008, 09:02 PM
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I will be interested to see if the corporate media give the Ron Paul faction the kind of attention and coverage that they are giving the Clinton faction. Methinks not.
| Not a chance. The Campaign For Liberty convention cross-town in Minneapolis from the RNC will get nary a blurb by the media. But what a ratings $coop for a network with a pair if they actually covered it heavily and live!!
Faction? Is that like a Che Guevara or Sandinista sect? He's a true-blood Repub and scares the crap out of both parties by talking sense. 
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August 30th, 2008, 05:08 AM
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| Hmm Yahoo suddenly is out of campaign news.. |
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September 9th, 2008, 06:09 PM
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