Illegal immigration reform

[Epidemic]

Definition Epidemics snitch program - a finders fee for each illegal alien after amnesty program that is identified by the snitch. the fine for first offence 2500 dollars per head to snitch and 2500 fine to INS for processing. fine doubles per head for (repeat offenders) each additional incident of knowingly employing or harboring illegals.


vote for path to citizenship because we actually did indirectly invite these people through our actions. If they are not criminals and they desire to become citizens I would allow one final amnesty. After which I would make harboring an illegal a serious crime punishable by time in jail. I would fine companies seriously and institute my snitch program where you can be made rich by ratting out a tyson plant and get a free vacation for ratting out the guy next door's maid.

I would utilize information currently available to capture tons and tons of aliens the stolen SS cards are easily tracked when a NY deli owner starts receiving SSI withholdings from Eastern shore packing plant.

[jokostel]

Why not just press those who want to become citizens of our country into military service for no less than 3 years. Any branch of their choosing.
Then they get all the proper paperwork,all that jazz.

I have no beef with those wishing to better themselves(legally). I DO have issues with the creme de la creme of the Mexican population coming in illegally.

[Steve R Jones]

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Originally Posted by Epidemic

I would utilize information currently available to capture tons and tons of aliens the stolen SS cards are easily tracked when a NY deli owner starts receiving SSI withholdings from Eastern shore packing plant.

So we would contact this deli owner and and he would check to see if ss cards are valid Or is there some missing punctuation in your train of thought?

[Chuckiechan]

The problem is that without the fence, all the amnesty laws will go steaming forward while enforcement is ignored just like before.

We cannot trust the congress to "do the right thing", as they have shown in the past they will stick a knife in us as soon as they have a safe seat.

I just don't buy the argument that because they are here, somehow they have "grandfathered" into legality. We don't need to create more poor people, which is what you end up creating with a competitive job market where one faction will work any hours under any conditions for any paycheck.

Getting the illegals out will be inflationary, but we need to bite the bullet. Raising the cost of labor is no different than raising taxes - prices will go up particularly. But we will just have to suck it up and accept the reality of a level playing field of wage rates where a shortage will create higher wages for legal workers.

Seriously, the question is: What do we do with the next 14 million who come streaming in after this amnesty?

[xelnanga]

I only picked "Point system to be used when accepting people from all nations." Although this was a very controversial topic and stirred up a lot of heated debate. But I think that when accepting immigrants from other countries, the government should take time to check upon their backgrounds.

In New York, (I don't know much about other places in the country) Asians tend to pass ESL classes faster and have incentive to work harder. But this is the exact opposite with the Hispanics. Maybe given their economic background or some other reasons, they just don't work but cause much trouble.

Now this doesn't mean EVERY single Hispanic or Asian does as what I described. There are ALWAYS exceptions. But this is true for the majority.

So, here's my question. Should the government allow people who will only cause trouble in the state? Didn't the gangs like MS13 or bloodz or crypts start similar to these trends with the rising illegal immigration? I think the government should just take much more time to see who should be allowed in and who shouldn't be.

[Socalgal]

I'm with Chuckie. This bill needs to be defeated. The current laws need to be enforced. Border Patrol needs to be allowed to do their jobs.

This "fast-track" background check is an utter fantasy - does anyone really believe our government is capable of completing 12 million secure, thorough background checks in 24 hours? Is no one scared to death of what this means??

These criminals knowingly break and disrespect our laws the moment they set foot on U.S. soil. Does anyone really believe that giving them amnesty will magically cause them to respect us and our laws? NO. We would be saying "hey it's ok - we'll reward you, lawbreaker, because you're already here - just cut in front of those doing it the right way." Great message and respect to those law-abiding immigrants who have done and are doing it the right, legal way.

The law is already in place from 1986 and our government has not allowed enforcement, and in fact have tied and punished the hands of enforcement for their own interests - not the country's best interests! Are we supposed to believe them now? How arrogant of them! Bush and Congress are a serious failure on this issue and are not operating in the best interests of our country - their secret back-room, pork-barrel, special-interests' deals to get this thing shoved down our throats must be intense.

I am angry as hell at GWB and those in government supporting this bill. If they want it then let THEM pay the $25 BILLION this will ADD to our already over-burdened services and taxpayers because the politicians and the criminals are the only ones winning here.

[jokostel]

Amen to that. Make them chip in, or ship them out..
As I said before EVERY LEGAL immigrant thats of the right age bracket, should be pressed into the military... to show as a good faith step,and to have them realise what this country had to do to become what it is.

[Socalgal]

I think your military idea is quite a good one, joko.

[Epidemic]

I was surprised that the snitch program did not get everyones votes. No work no incentive to come across the border. Drying up demand reduces incentive and therefore no one but baddies try to make the run. they can be treated much more criminal like as they are obviously up to no good.

[jokostel]

It would solve a lot of the Immigrant "dead beat parent" issues and give their familes a safe place to grow up... as most military families find it easier to procure housing on base.