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Old November 5th, 2007, 11:46 PM     #31 (permalink)
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There is no consitution without inalienable rights, which our founding fathers acknowledged were "endowed by their creator". Without a creator, from where do you suggest inalienable rights are derived?

So having the word "Creator" in it means they all believed in a god?

You mean that the "creator" they are talking about couldn't be your parents (who were the ones who did *create* you with the mixing of their DNA).
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Old November 5th, 2007, 11:55 PM     #32 (permalink)
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I have limited credibility? You are basing your whole claims on an out of context quote from a treaty with a country that nobody ever heard of, that lasted eight years. It is not a binding legal document in any way. Or even of any importance. You know how many bilateral treaties the US has made in their history? They probably told the Indians they would let them be too. For the same reasons they told a muslim nation(and only one nation) that they werent christian.
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Old November 5th, 2007, 11:57 PM     #33 (permalink)
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So having the word "Creator" in it means they all believed in a god?

You mean that the "creator" they are talking about couldn't be your parents (who were the ones who did *create* you with the mixing of their DNA).

Capitalization in this situation usually implies divinity. You're really reaching here...
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Old November 5th, 2007, 11:58 PM     #34 (permalink)
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I am basing my claims on the fact that THE CONSTITUTION has no mention of God in it.

You are basing your claims on the statement that the Constitution is "replete with references to God". Yes, you have extremely limited credibility.

I've taken nothing out of context. I supplied all of the context in several other posts that I have quoted throughout these forums including this very thread.

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Old November 6th, 2007, 12:01 AM     #35 (permalink)
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I didnt seen the context of the entire quote. Where it is basically appeasing muslims. That quote is much different in context. It is meaningless and historically insignficant either way. As I have explained.
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Old November 6th, 2007, 12:02 AM     #36 (permalink)
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I posted it in this thread, HERE:
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Old November 6th, 2007, 12:03 AM     #37 (permalink)
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Have you read the Constitution yet? I am still waiting on the mentions of God in all their repleted splendor.
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And the quote is not much different regardless of the context. IT SAYS THAT THIS NATION WAS NOT FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION. READ ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

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Old November 6th, 2007, 12:05 AM     #39 (permalink)
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HERE! is the Constitution. Make easy on yourself and don't even bother reading the whole damn thing. Just do a search for God. "Ctrl F" in most browsers. Try "Jesus" or "Christ" while you're at it.

Get back to me on what you find.
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And the quote is not much different regardless of the context. IT SAYS THE THIS NATION WAS NOT FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION. READ ON THE FLOOR OF THE SENATE AND UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED.

So was the declaration of war against Iraq . . . . which was based on intelligence from several countries . . . . and after congress was briefed on that intelligence . . . which a number of the Democrats still signed . . . . but now deny . . . .

What was your argument again????

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