November 24th, 2007, 08:59 AM #1
Private jet parking spots at Climate Change Conference at a premium
So says Bali News.
The operational manager for Bali's Airport, Azjar Effendi, says his 3 parking areas can only accommodate 15 planes, which means that some of the jets used by VIP delegations will only be allowed to disembark and embark their planes in Bali with parking provided at airports in Surabaya, Lombok, Jakarta and Makassar.
November 24th, 2007, 11:51 AM #2
It's OK to have a huge "carbon footprint" so long as you're preaching to everyone else about lessening theirs. Jeez, get with the program, osprey4.
November 24th, 2007, 11:59 AM #3
3.5% of anthropogenic climate change is attributed to aviation. 15 private jets of the policy makers (politicians) is hardly a huge footprint.“Religion: Together we can find the cure.”
November 24th, 2007, 12:39 PM #4
You're not a principled person, so you wouldn't be expected to understand.
November 24th, 2007, 12:52 PM #5
Good argument. Yup! You got me there. You're nothing but a troll on these threads.
Reminder to self. Don't click "View Post" for TRB since he doesn't come up with coherent arguments.“Religion: Together we can find the cure.”
November 24th, 2007, 01:03 PM #6
No, my friend, I'm afraid your argument is incoherent. You're saying it's OK to do something malicious as long as it's just a "drop in the bucket"? Maybe I should pour all the motor oil that I have sitting around down the sewer. After all, I'm just one person. And to make it worse, let's just imagine I go around trying to get people to properly dispose of motor oil. That's what these people are doing. They're worthless hypocrites who think their shit don't stink.
November 24th, 2007, 03:55 PM #7
Well I thought I might take a peek at your post against my better judgement.
First of all, I was disputing your exaggeration of a "huge foot print".
Now I have to deal with your further exaggeration of uselessly pouring oil down a gutter. Pouring oil down a gutter hardly compares to flying to the conference which has a purpose of informing those with the jets through live presentations of data and Q & A sessions. Politicians, policy advisers and media own the jets and I'm pretty sure private jets aren't all that available to the scientists presenting the information.
If you have any more non sequitur arguments, someone else may help you out.“Religion: Together we can find the cure.”
November 24th, 2007, 05:47 PM #8
People who fly around in private jets have a larger footprint than normal people who drive, or take an airline to their destinations.
People who fly around in private jets and preach about human-caused global warming are hypocrites. Don't you see that? I don't care if people fly around in private jets...but for Christ sake, why would global warmists do it? Lead by example, anyone?
Secondly, my example was quite pertinent to illustrate the hypocrisy.
Need more examples?
- I curse like a sailor, but I try to censor bad words in movies.
- I urge people to be vegetarians, but I eat hamburgers every day for lunch.
- I ask people to recycle, yet I throw paper in with all the garbage.
- I'm a peace advocate, yet I'm in jail for picking a fight.
- I'm an atheist who prays every night for those stupid Christians.
November 24th, 2007, 05:49 PM #9
I'm not overly bothered either way, partly as I'm aware that what I say has no ramifications on whatever those with power/money/both will do, and also as I'm aware that there have been multiple major changes in the Earth's climate over the years, which (as far as I'm aware) had nothing to do with flying in planes... But............
I find it "interesting" to hear about politicians going on about how we all have to have to live better, recycle more, and be greener generally - while doing nothing but pollute themselves... Like, for example, when Al Gore was flying around the world making us all aware of climate change, telling us that flying is bad, etc....
Having said that, I also realise that the OP was referring to prolly something like a couple of hundred ppl going to one conference, which is only a drop in the ocean compared to the tens of thousands (I don't have official figures, but I think it is a decent guess) of folks around the world who fly in planes every day, and the millions who drive their cars in major towns choking the air with all the pollutants that come from the exhausts....... But, if you take it as a per-person figure................................
As I said earlier, I know that my opinions mean next to nothing, especially to those with money/power/both.......
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November 25th, 2007, 01:11 AM #11
6. I bitch and moan about the burden socialized health care would place on the American taxpayer; yet I have no problem milking my daddy's government supplied (at the tax payers' expense) health insurance well into my adulthood; even though I am clearly capable of supporting myself, as I drive a fancy new muscle car.
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November 25th, 2007, 02:03 AM #19Unofficial TechIMO record holder for the number of times being added and removed from beemer's ignore list.
November 25th, 2007, 01:03 PM #20
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I want a plane
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