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Old February 18th, 2008, 07:43 PM     #11 (permalink)
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The problem isn't our aid budget, it's paying a United Nation's tax and then having them dole out the money where they see fit.

We should reserve the right to give our money where it is in our best interests, rather than give it to the kleptocrats in the UN.

I'm against a "world government" run by the UN. If they USA ran it, maybe.

I don't see anything in this bill about a United Nation's tax. That's just right-wing talking points getting ahead of reality.

The Global Poverty Act does this:
  • Declares it official U.S. policy to promote the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of cutting extreme global poverty in half by 2015.
  • Requires the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to carry out that policy.
  • Includes guidelines for what the strategy should include - from aid, trade, and debt relief, to working with the international community, businesses and NGOs, to ensuring environmental sustainability.
  • Requires that the President’s strategy include specific and measurable goals, efforts to be undertaken, benchmarks, and timetables.
  • Requires the President to report back to Congress on progress made in the implementation of the global poverty strategy.
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Old February 18th, 2008, 07:52 PM     #12 (permalink)
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I don't see anything in this bill about a United Nation's tax.

And that's your typical right-wing swiftboating at it's best. All they have to do is mention a divisive topic, i.e, the UN, in relation to what they want to torpedo, i.e., Obama or foreign aid, and the sheeple pick it right up and devour it like it was manna from heaven.
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The fact of the matter is that national Horatio Alger stories are rare, and stories of people trapped by their nation’s poverty are all too common. What you also conveniently forgot was that Japan's success was largely caused by billions invested by the U.S. to rebuild Japan after the war. So, you are actually making the case for this bill. Invest in Africa and they'll be successful like Japan.

After they were defeated in WW2. We're setting Iraq up to be a capitalist democracy. You don't ask dictators to just give up power and let free markets reign. You have to kill them. Giving money to a country run by a tyrant will do no good.
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We're setting Iraq up to be a capitalist democracy.

Good luck and dream on, Gumby. These people don't want gun-point democratic capitalism rammed down their throats anymore than the Vietnamese did. I know, it's hard for you to grasp.

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Good luck and dream on, Gumby. These people don't want democratic capitalism rammed down their throats anymore than the Vietnamese did. I know, it's hard for you to grasp.

We'll see. I don't think we belong there, but we may as well try to make the most of it.
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We'll see. ...we may as well try to make the most of it.

It's not about "WE". It's about "THEM" and their country. You guys are all about me and mine. Don't include ME in your cluster fuck.
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It's not about "WE". It's about "THEM" and their country. You guys are all about me and mine. Don't include ME in your cluster fuck.

I bet when you played sports as a kid you'd just throw in the towel when you fucked up (and I'm sure that was quite often).
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I bet when you played sports as a kid you'd just throw in the towel when you fucked up (and I'm sure that was quite often).

Wrong, as usual. I gave up sports because I kept running into twits like you. I opted for music instead. The nookie was of a higher class as was the company in general.
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Wrong, as usual. I gave up sports because I kept running into twits like you. I opted for music instead. The nookie was of a higher class as was the company in general.

Just admit you had the coordination of a one-legged penguin and, after being laughed out of all club sports, you were relegated to band geeks and nerds who were allergic to the sun. It's OK if you were; I'm not here to judge.
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The problem is they are trying to institutionalize the aid package as a percentage of our GDP. This is a tax. Or a fee. Or a levy. Call it what you want but once you mandate a percentage that goes somewhere, it's a tax.
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