Court Upholds NYC Restaurant Calorie Requirement

**RobRich** · April 16th, 2008, 01:55 PM

With the recent discussion on nutrition, I found it interesting to note a federal court has sided with New York City in requiring restaurants to list caloric amounts for their food.

Judge Richard Holwell says in a ruling Wednesday that the law is a reasonable approach to the city's goal of reducing obesity.

The new law takes effect on April 21 and applies to restaurants with more than 15 outlets across the country.

Source: Google (Associated Press)

**SoloCamo** · April 16th, 2008, 02:58 PM

Reasonable approach? Isn't it obvious what food is good for and what's not? This won't change a thing out there.

How about the government actually doing us all a favor...instead of wasting tax dollars on pointless programs, tell the obese to get off their lazy***, eat right and exercise. But nooo....that would be telling people to take responsibility for their own actions!

**osprey4** · April 16th, 2008, 05:16 PM

I'll add this to the list of Things I didn't know until the government told me:
1. Smoking is dangerous.
2. Wear a seatbelt.
3. Don't put plastic bags around children's heads.
4. How to use an extension cord without endangering myself and everyone for five blocks around me.
5. Pumping my own gasoline is dangerous when I'm in New Jersey and Oregon.
6. Eating too much fatty, salty food can be bad for my health.

**Atomic Rooster** · April 16th, 2008, 06:09 PM

Yay! More useless information that I'll never read when in NY. From what I remember, they want to do this in San Francisco too.

I just want to know what I'm ordering and how much it costs, not how "nutritional" it may or may not be. I know damn well how many calories and sodium are in an Ultimate Cheeseburger (about 1000 calories and 1500mg sodium), but that doesn't stop me from eating it.

This law wont do a thing to "reduce obesity". People are going to eat what they want regardless of whether or not the caloric amounts are printed on the menu.

**shawshank62** · April 16th, 2008, 06:15 PM

This is great news! I always appreciated restaurants that included nutrition information on their menu's to help me make a better choice about my meal. Sometimes it's amazing how many calories a dish has through the way its cooked. This is another piece to the puzzle in reducing obesity.

**jokostel** · April 16th, 2008, 07:46 PM

Obstructing people from what they want to eat is about the most pathetic and socialistic bullshit I have EVER seen.
Anyone ever stop and think that It's their RIGHT if they want to be lazy and fat that they can?

LIFE
LIBERTY
PURSUIT OF HAPPINESS

**RobRich** · April 16th, 2008, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by jokostel

Obstructing people from what they want to eat is about the most pathetic and socialistic bullshit I have EVER seen.

Proposed law in Mississippi:

Mississippi House Bill 282 is the work of Republicans W. T. Mayhall, Jr. and John Read, and Democrat Bobby Shows. It would aim to keep Whoppers and Big Macs out of the hands of fat people, by force of law.

"Any food establishment to which this section applies shall not be allowed to serve food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the State Department of Health after consultation with the Mississippi Council on Obesity Prevention and Management," the bill states.

Source: Consumer Affairs

**jokostel** · April 16th, 2008, 07:57 PM

It's sad.
Well... Here it goes.

USA--- Has died today - April 16th 2008... It had a good run. It was born on July 4th 1776.

It was murdered by ignorant politicans,ranchers,oil tycoons, and bad laws... and hundreds of thousands of people who didn't stand up for what was right.

**surreal** · April 16th, 2008, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by shawshank62

This is great news! I always appreciated restaurants that included nutrition information on their menu's to help me make a better choice about my meal. Sometimes it's amazing how many calories a dish has through the way its cooked. This is another piece to the puzzle in reducing obesity.

I agree, what's most important about it is that now you know the junk that's in there that you would never expect!

oh hell,,,who am I kidding I can't ever afford to eat a restaurant...

**jokostel** · April 16th, 2008, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by surreal

I agree, what's most important about it is that now you know the junk that's in there that you would never expect!

Why should a place that you choose to eat at make any decisions for you?

If you like something and dont care if it makes you fat... what gives them the RIGHT to deny it to a paying customer?

I understand that they are trying to curb ignorant eating habits... that's NOT societies problem... that's the individuals right to choose.
If they make said choice... expect following results.

How hard is it to understand??? JESUS!

**MTAtech** · April 16th, 2008, 08:44 PM

Originally Posted by jokostel

USA--- Has died today - April 16th 2008... It had a good run. It was born on July 4th 1776.

I just don't get it. You are ok with the government torturing prisoners; you are ok with rendition, etc. but a law banning transfats pushes you over the edge?

**jokostel** · April 16th, 2008, 08:56 PM

A persons right to choose.
What in the fuck gives the govt the right to "lockout" certain foods because of your genetic dispostion?

**shawshank62** · April 16th, 2008, 10:13 PM

Obstructing people from what they want to eat is about the most pathetic and socialistic bullshit I have EVER seen.
Anyone ever stop and think that It's their RIGHT if they want to be lazy and fat that they can?

Joko, can you even read? The article was about 100 words, its not like its a book. No one is making decisions for you, its giving you information to make better decisions yourself.

**GroundZero3** · April 16th, 2008, 10:31 PM

We require products in grocery stores to have it jokostel i dont see what the big deal is.

However most places now just have the food premade in bags. People dont go out to eat for the health reasons. They do it because they want someone to make them food.

**Atomic Rooster** · April 16th, 2008, 10:33 PM

Shawshank -
Joko is referring to this proposed socialist bullshit legislation:

Originally Posted by RobRich

Proposed law in Mississippi:

Mississippi House Bill 282 is the work of Republicans W. T. Mayhall, Jr. and John Read, and Democrat Bobby Shows. It would aim to keep Whoppers and Big Macs out of the hands of fat people, by force of law.

"Any food establishment to which this section applies shall not be allowed to serve food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the State Department of Health after consultation with the Mississippi Council on Obesity Prevention and Management," the bill states.

Source: Consumer Affairs

**The Real Bingo** · April 16th, 2008, 10:36 PM

I like knowing what's in the food I eat. I know what I'm getting when I'm at home (for the most part), but when dining out, who knows what's being served?

**shawshank62** · April 16th, 2008, 10:44 PM

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

Shawshank -
Joko is referring to this proposed socialist bullshit legislation:

Actually the commented that I referenced was posted before that.

**jokostel** · April 16th, 2008, 10:49 PM

Regardless.... he is correct, Shaw.
I had heard of this BS beforehand.

**MTAtech** · April 17th, 2008, 06:15 AM

I disagree with the Mississippi law too. However, I find the abuses of the Bush Admin far more threatening to our American way than stopping fat people from getting burgers.

**jokostel** · April 17th, 2008, 07:56 AM

It's all the same BS.
Obsctruction of freedoms via laws put in place because "they know what's best for you".
If you look at the whole picture... it's flat out scary.

**Sadly, I think it's going to get a LOT worse before it gets better.