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    The worlds oldest tree(9550 Years old) found in Sweden.

     
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    The world's oldest tree has been found in Sweden, a tenacious spruce that first took root just after the end of the last ice age, more than 9,500 years ago.

    The tree has rewritten the history of the climate in the region, revealing that it was much warmer at that time and the ice had disappeared earlier than thought.
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    It had been thought that this region was still in the grip of the ice age but the tree shows it was much warmer, even than today, he says.

    “Spruces are the species that can best give us insight about climate change,” he says.

    The summers 9,500 years ago were warmer than today, though there has been a rapid recent rise as a result of climate change that means modern climate is rapidly catching up.
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    Amazing if true!
    Not a great picture in the article, but it sure doesn't look like a 9500 year old tree. Compared to the really old tree's you see in the Pacific northwest, or Africa.

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    Funny, I just saw an blurb in the Metro newspaper about a 4600-year-old tree in California claimed to be the "oldest living thing on earth"...and this one looked the age. It's called a bristlecone pine, and it goes by the name of 'Methuselah'.
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    Firewood. Maybe by lightning strike or human hand. Wouldnt you have to cut and count the rings? So what's the second oldest tree?

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    Wouldnt you have to cut and count the rings?
    My thoughts exactly, so how'd they do it?
    Quote Originally Posted by The Real Bingo View Post
    Funny, I just saw an blurb in the Metro newspaper about a 4600-year-old tree in California claimed to be the "oldest living thing on earth"...and this one looked the age. It's called a bristlecone pine, and it goes by the name of 'Methuselah'.
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    The bristlecone pines are a small group of pine trees (Family Pinaceae, genus Pinus, subsection Balfourianae) that were previously thought to reach an age far greater than that of any other single living organism known, up to nearly 5,000 years, up until Swedish researchers found a spruce in Dalarna that has been dated to just under 10,000 years old.
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    Carbon dating
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    Firewood. Maybe by lightning strike or human hand. Wouldnt you have to cut and count the rings? So what's the second oldest tree?

    Quote Originally Posted by surreal View Post
    My thoughts exactly, so how'd they do it?

    The oldest tree, in Fulu Mountain, Dalarna (“the dales”), was dated by carbon dating at a laboratory in Miami, Florida to 9,550 years old and underneath the crown in the soil there were another three generations of wood from the same clone, dating 375, 5,660 and 9,000 years old that have the same genetic makeup.
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    I think they drill a core sample, then match other samples of part of the "original trees" underground and come up with an age.
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    I believe Robert Byrd is a bit older than that tree, but still just as sharp!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckiechan View Post
    I think they drill a core sample, then match other samples of part of the "original trees" underground and come up with an age.
    Carbon Dating, not core sampling. Core sampling can only read back about 4,000 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bizkitkid2001
    Carbon dating quotes
    Didn't I just say that
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    Quote Originally Posted by porsch1909 View Post
    Didn't I just say that
    Yes you did, but I never quoted you?
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    But if I just said it...what's the point in saying it again?
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    Quote Originally Posted by porsch1909 View Post
    But if I just said it...what's the point in saying it again?

    To point out to them that what they were looking for was plainly in the article that they had already read.


    And who cares if I said what it was as well? Is it really that big of a problem to you?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizkitkid2001 View Post
    To point out to them that what they were looking for was plainly in the article that they had already read.


    And who cares if I said what it was as well? Is it really that big of a problem to you?
    I love it when people try to get aggressive over the internet.

    It's not a problem. I was just inquiring the reasons as to why you felt it necessary to answer a question that's already been answered.

    Usually people are so quick to post the answer they don't read anything beneath the question. But it appears you intentionally answered the question again.

    Never mind
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    Quote Originally Posted by porsch1909 View Post
    I love it when people try to get aggressive over the internet.

    It's not a problem. I was just inquiring the reasons as to why you felt it necessary to answer a question that's already been answered.

    Usually people are so quick to post the answer they don't read anything beneath the question. But it appears you intentionally answered the question again.

    Never mind

    I'm not getting agressive. The reason you believe I am getting agressive is because you are reading way to much into this thread.

    Is there a rule saying that if someone answers the question that should be the end of the conversation of the thread?


    Porsche, I advise that you start taking things with a grain of salt on the internet. To me, you seem like you get annoyed or irritated by the fact that someone posts an answer after you have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bizkitkid2001 View Post
    I'm not getting agressive. The reason you believe I am getting agressive is because you are reading way to much into this thread.

    Is there a rule saying that if someone answers the question that should be the end of the conversation of the thread?


    Porsche, I advise that you start taking things with a grain of salt on the internet. To me, you seem like you get annoyed or irritated by the fact that someone posts an answer after you have.

    Yes because my smilies ( )indicate that I'm getting annoyed? If I used it would indicate I was getting annoyed.

    All I was doing was asking why you answered the question again. Just a question.
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    I believe Robert Byrd is a bit older than that tree, but still just as sharp!!
    I beg to differ. Doesn't John McCain hold that distinction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toadman View Post
    I beg to differ. Doesn't John McCain hold that distinction?

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    So much for the Global Warming crowds claims....
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