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Old May 9th, 2008, 11:55 AM     #101 (permalink)
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Back on topic...Obama is leading in Super Delegates 267-266. That is a huge shift since the days when Clinton boasted about a 60-plus vote lead among the party's pros back on Super Tuesday. Obama's camp is also planning to announce a 50-state registration rally this weekend, a tactic geared to a November election rather than the remaining Democratic primaries. The rest of the Democratic Party, however, is struggling with how to end Clinton's challenge and worries that a last-ditch effort by Clinton could be damaging to Obama.

Former top Clinton administration aide Leon Panetta told KGO TV in San Francisco, "It's pretty clear unless there's a bolt of lightning, Barack Obama is likely to win the Democratic nomination. She's put up a good fight and put up a good race, but I think there's a time now where she needs to concede and unify the party."

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/Vote2...4818637&page=1


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Old May 9th, 2008, 11:56 AM     #102 (permalink)
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Sorry to say, that's a naive view. Blacks are in prison in greater proportion to whites for two main reasons.

The first reason is that a greater proportion of blacks are in poverty compared to whites and have less job opportunities. As such, they have less access to proper legal representation; more likely to be convicted and more likely to serve jail time.

The second reason is that blacks (who primarily live in cities) are more likely to get caught. Drugs are the main crime for blacks in jail. In white suburbs, high school students sell drugs to each other from the privacy of their homes where it is unlikely law enforcement lurks. In cities, drugs are sold on the streets, in plain view.
Well actually there are more white people on welfare than black and possibly more than all minorities. not by proportion but raw number.

ps your white suburban drug dealer scenario may be true but is it a good thing that those kids get to sell drugs with impunity or would it be better that the white criminals stop hurting the white community.


PS don't most white people live in cities as well?

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Old May 9th, 2008, 12:03 PM     #103 (permalink)
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outlaw, I had hoped that if she were to continue for a few more weeks, she would do so with a positive message. In one sense, it is good for her to continue. Many of her supporters in the remaining states would feel disenfranchised were she to drop out now. And a few more weeks doesn't hurt anybody, unless she decides to continue with her scorched earth tactics. I sincerely hope she re-thinks this -- and soon!
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Old May 9th, 2008, 12:07 PM     #104 (permalink)
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Sorry about this one, last, off-topic post.

Epidemic,

I never meant to imply that large numbers of people are in prison because they broke no laws. The reasons why our prisons look like they do are complex, and have to do with social and economic history in the 19th and 20th centuries. I apologize for being vague--I don't have time to get into it now. If I can I'll start another thread or pm you later with some stuff I think is relevant to the issue.

jokostel and Toadman,

As far as "uppity" is concerned, it is the contextual use of the word that is the problem, not the word itself. As for being "educated yet ignorant", on this particular subject my education is growing up in Atlanta during the 50's and 60's.

Being "uppity" in those days was dangerous. I remember sitting in small, rural, wooden churches at night pretending to do my homework while my mother registered people to vote. You could feel the fear as people crept in to sign their names to voter registration cards, as well as the pride they felt when leaving. They had good reason to be afraid; and my mother, as a civil rights activist, received death threats as well--which, I am proud to say, she ignored as she carried on with her work.

The ugliness of the word "uppity", when used in certain contexts, still resonates. I will, therefore, continue to object to its usage in those contexts.

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sorry angela,

You are right I am off topic and i had hoped that mine would be the only one

I will cease in this thread.
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Old May 9th, 2008, 12:14 PM     #106 (permalink)
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Angela, Im gonna take an OJ at this, but your'e an african american aren't you?
Oh wait, Im being insensitive. I mean black... OOPS! there I go again!
How about an American? Phew! Muuuch better. How about everyone just stop sticking your damn nose in the clouds about your race, and start working together to better society? Is it that hard? Look at all of the black activists out there.... Everyyone of of them is hated, by some white and blacks... then they have their blind followers who think violence, and noise will promote peace between cultures... all while playing the race card for political points and leverage in society...
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It appears that Obama has shifted his strategy away from Clinton to full-blown against McCain -- as if to ignore Clinton's relevance.
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It appears that Obama has shifted his strategy away from Clinton to full-blown against McCain -- as if to ignore Clinton's relevance.
Smart move, and about time too.

This whole presidential race is like watching idiots play chess. I've got zero faith in any of them....
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It appears that Obama has shifted his strategy away from Clinton to full-blown against McCain -- as if to ignore Clinton's relevance.
Gonna be funny when he is not running against McCain and Clinton is.
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It appears that Obama has shifted his strategy away from Clinton to full-blown against McCain -- as if to ignore Clinton's relevance.
I'm just so happy Clinton is losing.
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