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Topic: Alright, I don't want to make this a political frenzy of race/gender...so keep it out of this thread. Clinton (as of right now) has no way of winning the democratic presidential nomination...so why doesn't she just drop ou...
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Old May 10th, 2008, 04:09 AM     #121 (permalink)
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If you are a Conservative, this race is a three-way loss -- any way you look at it, America loses.

That being said, the Clintons are nothing if not power hungry. ClintonXY would not resign where better men have resigned to preserve the good name of the Office of the President, so it's no surprise that ClintonXX will not quit when there is a shot at the most powerful looting opportunity in the world.

Meanwhile, Limbaugh's OPERATION CHAOS is working like clockwork, keeping the two sides in play, bickering and exposing Obama as the Leftist extremist for what he is --- something McCain doesn't have the spine to do.

Ultimately, unless Barr jumps in the fray to peel off Conservative protest votes, McCain will get it, since Obama will not win over the Squishy Middle and the Right. He will get a sizable chunkl of the Left, but then, McCain is really running as a Conservative Democrat, has kicked core Conservative constituents to the curb and is seeking the Center-Left swing voters.

Already there are a solid 25 percent of the Obama and Hillary factions that have stated that they would vote for McCain if their own candidate makes it to the nomination.

If one of the Democrats gets in, they will be presiding over a tanking US economy and, being the Leftists of Impenetrable Stupidity that they are, will gut our military, emasculate our intelligence community and pave the way for the first successful terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 ( "That's right Gary... 9/11 times a THOUSAND" )

This may well result in the sort of house-cleaning that took place in 1994, assuming we finally get some good Republican leadership to step up to bat.

Otherwise, if McCain gets in, he will be presiding over a tanking economy and the DNC-MSM will be raking him over the coals, even though he will kissing their butts and doing their bidding.

Oh yes, and he will revive the shambling corpse of Amnesty for Illegals and America as We Know It will be gone, only to be replaced by a taco-flavored conglomeration of MexAmerica.

Either way, America is screwed, regardless as to which of these three clowns wins.

Did I mention that the Mayan Calendar predicts Global Disaster in 2012?

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There was also a Long Count calendar which started at [0.0.0.0.0] (with Maya record) on August 11, 3114 BC according to the "Goodman, Martinez-Hernandez, and Thompson" correlation (nicknamed "GMT"), the most widely accepted correlation between the Maya and Gregorian calendar. This cycle is 1,872,000 days in length, terminates on the Winter Solstice of (December 21) AD 2012 and is designated [13.0.0.0.0] or [0.0.0.0.0], since the Maya believed that time is somehow periodical. Another widely-used correlation, that of Lounsbury, correlates the start-day to August 13, 3114 BC and the terminal date to December 23, AD
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Old May 10th, 2008, 04:12 AM     #122 (permalink)
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Meh.

Minor correction: 25 percent would vote for McCain if their candidate DOESN'T make the Democratic nomination.

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Old May 10th, 2008, 05:59 AM     #123 (permalink)
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Why vote? The world is going to end in 2012 anyway!

I can see it now, Hillary loses 2008, comes back in 2012 and wins, and then causes the world to end before inauguration.

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Old May 10th, 2008, 07:14 AM     #124 (permalink)
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That being said, the Clintons are nothing if not power hungry. ClintonXY would not resign where better men have resigned to preserve the good name of the Office of the President, so it's no surprise that ClintonXX will not quit when there is a shot at the most powerful looting opportunity in the world.
Well if presidents should resign for the good name of the office, what the hell is G W Bush still doing there.
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Old May 10th, 2008, 07:36 AM     #125 (permalink)
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Let me guess, you are one of the 20% that approve of GW Bush's job performance?
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McCain is at least a bit patriotic.
If you question Obama's patriotism it only means that the right-wing noise machine has gotten to you. It's the same swift-boat noise machine that created doubt that Kerry, who was a decorated war hero who was wounded in battle and saved other Navy men's lives, was somehow less patriotic that Bush, whose family did everything in their connected power to keep their son away from the front lines.
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If you are a Conservative, this race is a three-way loss -- any way you look at it, America loses.

That being said, the Clintons are nothing if not power hungry. ClintonXY would not resign where better men have resigned to preserve the good name of the Office of the President, so it's no surprise that ClintonXX will not quit when there is a shot at the most powerful looting opportunity in the world.
I don't recall any looting in the Clinton Administration but I certainly see Bush's friends in Haliburton and other companies war profiteering, which you don't mention. By the way, on 'Clinton resigning,' he had no reason to resign and the day that the Senate voted to impeach him (which failed) he had a 75% approval rating.

If anyone as denigrated the good name of the Office of the President it is the current half-wit President who has brought American respect and American influence to a low.
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Meanwhile, Limbaugh's OPERATION CHAOS is working like clockwork, keeping the two sides in play, bickering and exposing Obama as the Leftist extremist for what he is --- something McCain doesn't have the spine to do.
I see, undermining the other Party's nomination process is you idea of promoting democracy. So telling of your perspective.
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Ultimately, unless Barr jumps in the fray to peel off Conservative protest votes, McCain will get it, since Obama will not win over the Squishy Middle and the Right. He will get a sizable chunkl of the Left, but then, McCain is really running as a Conservative Democrat, has kicked core Conservative constituents to the curb and is seeking the Center-Left swing voters.
If you think McCain is going to be un-done by someone else jumping in, I want what you're smoking.

Moreover, polls taken this early are worthless. In June 1992, Ross Perot was the front-runner and Clinton was third.

McCain isn't running as a conservative Democrat, he's running as a Bush Republican with slight differences. He favors all of Bush's major policies -- Iraq, tax breaks for the wealthy that he wants to make permanent, etc.
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Already there are a solid 25 percent of the Obama and Hillary factions that have stated that they would vote for McCain if their own candidate makes it to the nomination.
If you notice the Republican side of the recent North Carolina primary, you will notice that about 25% of Republican voters didn't vote for McCain, even though he's got the nomination sewn up.

The Democratic voters will come together and support their nominee (they usually do). Yes, there will be some racists that won't pull the lever for a black man but most of the country is beyond that these days.
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If one of the Democrats gets in, they will be presiding over a tanking US economy and, being the Leftists of Impenetrable Stupidity that they are, will gut our military, emasculate our intelligence community and pave the way for the first successful terrorist attack on US soil since 9/11 ( "That's right Gary... 9/11 times a THOUSAND" )

This may well result in the sort of house-cleaning that took place in 1994, assuming we finally get some good Republican leadership to step up to bat.
Before the Dems won Congress in 2006, I met a wing-nut who asserted that same paranoia -- if the Dems take Congress, we're going to be attacked. That's just knuckle-dragging logic. The fact is, the Republicans dragged their feet on protecting the country. The first thing the 2006 Democratic Congress did was pass the 9/11 Commission's recommendations.

I'm also tired of right-wing lies that Clinton weaked defense. It just isn't true.

Who created this "tanking US economy"? Seven years of Bush's failed policies that increased government spending while cutting taxes on the wealthy. The country never got either the GDP growth or the jobs created that those tax-cuts promised (gee, who would have guessed that?)

Bush's predecessor (Clinton) handed him a government budget that was balanced and an economy that created jobs and was growing.

Clinton increased anti-terrorist activities and wanted to increase the intelligence community even more but was stopped by the Republican Congress.
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Otherwise, if McCain gets in, he will be presiding over a tanking economy and the DNC-MSM will be raking him over the coals, even though he will kissing their butts and doing their bidding.
McCain is the darling of the MSM. They've given him a pass on so many issues and have labeled him a 'straight shooter' undeservedly.

Man, one word of advice: You got to stop using Rush Limbaugh as your sole source of news. Listening to him is like listening to the Soviet propaganda radio station under the old USSR and thinking what you're getting was truth.
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Why vote? The world is going to end in 2012 anyway!

I can see it now, Hillary loses 2008, comes back in 2012 and wins, and then causes the world to end before inauguration.
I don't think so...she would have to run against Jesse Ventura.
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