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[Pexster]

Our military is actually far from being stretched(number one big lie)

Whole buncha' generals disagree with you. So don't dare try to pin this on me! Here's just one of many quotes

The Army's top officer, General George Casey, told Congress yesterday that his branch of the military has been stretched so thin by the war in Iraq that it can not adequately respond to another conflict - one of the strongest warnings yet from a military leader that repeated deployments to war zones in the Middle East have hamstrung the military's ability to deter future aggression.
In his first appearance as Army chief of staff, Casey told the House Armed Services Committee that the Army is "out of balance" and "the current demand for our forces exceeds the sustainable supply. We are consumed with meeting the demands of the current fight and are unable to provide ready forces as rapidly as necessary for other potential contingencies."

Maybe instead of the knee-jerk rejection of anything a non-military type tells you, a little research first might be in order?

The Middle East is not more unstable with Saddam gone.

Hogwash! Iran is more powerful and more emboldened now that Saddam is gone. And Saddam may have once been a danger, but we had him in a box. We've unleashed near-chaos in an already unstable region.

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How can the middle east be more unstable when it was never stable in the first place?

[Sarah L]

Obama is a dangerous idiot, and it won't take long for people to figure out he is a liberal radical who will fritter away US security in the name of "change".

With this man they will lose enough moderate Democrats and most conservative Democrats. The ultra-left have foisted upon us Democrats a man without the experience to be a state governor let alone a President. All the well experienced Democrats were eliminated early and the party gave us the least 3 experienced at anything. Except Edwards is a good lawyer whether you want to call him an ambulance chaser or not he is very effective at his trade. Now I check prior posts by people and have not found one guy arguing for Obama now that supported him earlier. Now a turd is a rose.

"Youth and inexperience will always be defeated by Old age and treachery" Obama is going to face that out in the world as he falls for the garbage fed to him by other world leaders. He does not have WISDOM.

[Sarah L]

Originally Posted by Pexster

Whole buncha' generals disagree with you. So don't dare try to pin this on me! Here's just one of many quotes Maybe instead of the knee-jerk rejection of anything a non-military type tells you, a little research first might be in order? Hogwash! Iran is more powerful and more emboldened now that Saddam is gone. And Saddam may have once been a danger, but we had him in a box. We've unleashed near-chaos in an already unstable region.

Casey is whoring for more funding.

You did know that no General in the history of any Army has enough.

No General in our nations history has ever said we have enough forces.

We have been expanding in case you missed that between drug hazes. The Army by 65,000 and the Marine Corp by 25,000.

[Pexster]

Oh, now I get it. Anyone not in the military who disagrees with you is wrong and unqualified to have an opinion. Generals who disagree with you are whoring for funds. Did you know that a whole group of retired generals also disagree with you? And that means somehow that I am in a drug haze? (You don't even know me, so that was a pretty stupid thing to say.)

Also, I never said Obama was "a turd" or even disliked him or his positions. I just happened to support Biden. I and about 250 other people in the country, apparently.

[Sarah L]

Originally Posted by Pexster

Oh, now I get it. Anyone not in the military who disagrees with you is wrong and unqualified to have an opinion. Generals who disagree with you are whoring for funds. Did you know that a whole group of retired generals also disagree with you? And that means somehow that I am in a drug haze? (You don't even know me, so that was a pretty stupid thing to say.)

Also, I never said Obama was "a turd" or even disliked him or his positions. I just happened to support Biden. I and about 250 other people in the country, apparently.

How does waking you up to the fact that every General that has gone before Congress has asked for more troops mean I am wrong about the Armies strength? Yes we need more troops IF YOU PAID ATTENTION to all of what the General said. PAY ATTENTION TO ALL OF WHAT THESE GENERALS ARE SAYING. Instead of stupidly jumping down my throat.

Shall I lead you by the hand through General Casey's statement? Do you need help with your reading comprehension skills? Since it is not drugs it must be your reading skills.

Let me know if you need me to point out the very obvious to you. I'll be around for a little while. Actually you were in so much in a hurry to prove me wrong I guess you missed it.

[Pexster]

Instead of stupidly jumping down my throat.

I think this is called "the pot calling the kettle black." I jump down your throat because you are needlessly combative and confrontational. You routinely denigrate anyone's opinion here who is not in the military. You do so apparently with very little thought as to the content and validity of your claims.

Whether Casey was emphasizing the need for more troops or a scaling back of the current mission in Iraq is irrelevant.

. . . the current demand for our forces exceeds the sustainable supply. We are consumed with meeting the demands of the current fight and are unable to provide ready forces as rapidly as necessary for other potential contingencies.

Is some part of that unclear? Contrast that with your statement

Our military is actually far from being stretched(number one big lie)

I can read and comprehend what I read just fine. In this universe, those two statements directly contradict each other. In fact, you are more or less accusing the General of spreading the "number one big lie" in order to gain funding. Would that be considered ethical conduct for a general officer testifying before Congress?

[Chuckiechan]

Would that be considered ethical conduct for a general officer testifying before Congress?

I suppose you expect him to go before Congress and say "Oh hell yes! We've got plenty of money!"

It's all about the struggle to get more funding.

[Pexster]

The testimony was not about funding. Read it. What I expect him to do is to testify truthfully. I would expect any officer to do so.

[Sarah L]

Originally Posted by Chuckiechan

I suppose you expect him to go before Congress and say "Oh hell yes! We've got plenty of money!"

It's all about the struggle to get more funding.

He missed a critical part of the Generals statement. A big qualifier on the statement "forces stretched to far"

I was hoping to get more guys on the band wagon saying we need a bigger Army. Besides the usual lets run away solution. The Army is adequate to defend the nation. Be nicer to be twice its size.

I wonder if these guys really want to give Bush a larger Army.

They sure do argue hard ours is too small.

The General is honest, who can predict what other conflicts may come. Worse case scenario is what you want to be prepared for.