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Old May 17th, 2008, 04:59 AM     #21 (permalink)
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Its in revelations, it refers to a church that actively works with a government. The Church is suppose to answer to God but this one acts out of greed and power, thus calling that church the "Whore of Babylon".
So are you saying that the Catholic League is wrong when they say Rev Hagee is calling the Catholic Church the great whore? Which other Church could he mean?


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Old May 17th, 2008, 04:41 PM     #22 (permalink)
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I didn't start this thread for political reasons, either. I was honestly shocked while listening to this guy on the radio. And even more shocked that people actually follow this charlatan.
This is funny, if I told you he actually believes what he says then he is not a charlatan. Think that makes him more or less dangerous in your eyes?

His view of the Catholic church being the "whore of babylon" is not unique in Christian circles. There is a description of what that church is like, one of the descriptions is the blood of saints is on this church's hands. Another is it is a world dominate church. Naturally right now only one church fits all of the descriptions in revelations. Do not forget the inquisition and the years of supporting monarchies. The church led wholesale slaughter of people considered to be blasphemers.

Anyhow the view is not just Haggee. Btw I have never listened to him or even know what he looks like but am trusting your obvious tilted opinion. My proof of that is you found very few problems with Wright. That tells me you are certainly not a Christian. Not equipped to argue theology.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 04:58 PM     #23 (permalink)
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You are right, I am not a Christian. But I do know more about Christian history than most Christians. Also, most self-proclaimed Christians aren't. Or at least most don't follow Christian principles in their lives.

It's true that I am not qualified to argue Christian theology, but being a Christian is not a prerequisite for that, either.

I do, though, have some common sense (I know, I know -- many here disagree) and I know a wack job when I hear one. And this guy is definitely in that club.
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Old May 17th, 2008, 05:42 PM     #24 (permalink)
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You did not answer me about Haggee being a charlatan.

Is he more or less dangerous firmly believing in what he says?

BTW you do not know enough Christians to make any judgment on the Christianity of Christians. You miss the whole reason for Christs sacrifice. But then again you think one nasty rat is better than another.
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BTW you do not know enough Christians to make any judgment on the Christianity of Christians. You miss the whole reason for Christs sacrifice. But then again you think one nasty rat is better than another.
You know next to nothing about me. Don't you think those conclusions are a little presumptuous? I do.
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You know next to nothing about me. Don't you think those conclusions are a little presumptuous? I do.
Proper conclusion since you are using an age old excuse I have seen many times.

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You are right, I am not a Christian. But I do know more about Christian history than most Christians.
And while I am a Christian . . . I probably know more about non-Christian history than most non-Christians.



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