How about that oil?

[#43 fan]

Why are the Environmentalists letting cars that spew Hydrocarbons roll around?

[The Real Bingo]

Originally Posted by #43 fan

Why are the Environmentalists letting cars that spew Hydrocarbons roll around?

Because they have places to go, too!

[no1_vern]

No, the Inventers will have first shot of killing the ONE battery cell idea. NO one wants just one design. Everyone want the design that will make THEM the most money, Why do you think we have so many different car makers?? If only one design is used that cuts out hundreds of thoudsnds of other individuals whos design could be much better/is much better. THEY will tie up production until there is a clear economic winner that they simply cant compete with OR that someone from outside produces they cant compete with.

Not only that the 500 lb cell is inpractical at this time. The prius battery bank weighs in at about 1400 lbs and is anemic to boot. WHEN they finally have a battery that weighs ONLY 500 lbs and produces enough juice to provide decent/safe acceleration while providing a range of about 200 miles will they have a winner, but I dont see that happening in the next 2-3 decades, if then.

Next The politics will get into the act, and whoever has the best congressman in his pocket will cause problems. Everything from FORCEING the inventers to change their methods to allowing the constituents' workers from other places to manufacture the battery in that county/state instead of where it started. Also they will try to force them to use the local workers/resources and if they cant get their way they will do their best to prevent it from being used.

THEN the environmentalists will get into the act -

Then Hollywood will get into the act -
Etcetera, etcetera, . . .

Then finally the actual consumer will get into the act - and they may not buy such an animal unless forced to. You know what happens if your forced to use something you dont like, dont you??

Originally Posted by #43 fan

Why are the Environmentalists letting cars that spew Hydrocarbons roll around?

Because cars that use gas got the power first. The environmentalists are just not powerful enough to keep the majority from doing as it pleases.


Heck, not even economics is enough to make the people do what is needed.

[Chuckiechan]

The environmentalists are just not powerful enough to keep the majority from doing as it pleases.

A very revealing statement of left - wing intentions.

There are lots of problems with electric vehicles. Maybe they will be solved, maybe they won't. The fact remains that most people, including myself are not going to want to go into a "middle earth" existence and ride a donkey to work.

[Cmptr-Gy-Dv]

the battery in a car weighs 1400 pounds?

OK so now you will need a hoist to lift it

it could still be removed by mechanical means, but could you do it in 3 or 4 minutes, thats the key,

the cars can have their own design, just the battery casing would be standard,

video cards have their own design, but they fit in to a PCI-E slot,

same thing,

[Chuckiechan]

You'd just park your car on rails - one positive, one negative, and it would charge itself.

Then the regulators get involved:

Handicap lobby: The rails can't stick up and be ADA compliant.
Environmentalists: The rails may corrode, leaching poisons into the environment.
Democrats: We need a program for people who can't afford them.
Republicans: I want one big enough to pull a trailer!
City Government: How can we tax it?
Big Oil: Park on our rails and you'll get a toaster!
San Francisco: Park on our rails and get whatever you want, where you want it!

The biggest obstacle of all: what woman can actually line up and park on the rails?

[no1_vern]

Correction:

ER, Im sorry I got the weight of the Prius battery pack wrong. The Prius battery pack weighs 53.3kg or about 130 lbs.

prismatic NiMH modules from Panasonic. Each module consists of six 1.2 V cells connected in series. The module has a nominal voltage of 7.2 V, capacity of 6.5 Ah, weighs 1.04 kg, and has dimensions of 19.6mm(W) x 106mm(H) x 275mm(L).
SNIP
he Toyota Prius II battery stack consists of 38 prismatic NiMH modules connected in series. It delivers a nominal 273.6 Volts and has a 6.5 Ah capacity. The modules are stacked side by side and then compressed together in a rigid, non-expandable structure that prevents expansion from internal pressures. The complete battery pack consists of the battery stack, enclosure for structural support and airflow, battery electronic control unit/monitor, relays and safety switch. The weight of the complete battery pack is 53.3 kg

To date the Prius is still underpowered IMO, but adding more weight in the form of batteries probably wont help its performance.

[Sarah L]

All-electric police cruiser unveiled in Connellsville, Pa.

[Cmptr-Gy-Dv]

Originally Posted by Sarah L

All-electric police cruiser unveiled in Connellsville, Pa.

perfect now all they have to do is make the battery cell removable,

and the 2 hour charge time becomes irrelevant, you trade them in for a charged cell like we do with propane tanks,

you only need to do that for long over the road trips really, otherwise you can charge them at home,

however you could save more money by charging them at your friends house, let them pay the electric bill

[CERuppel]

Here are a couple of links to the new battery tech

Super Battery: Science Videos - Science News - ScienCentral

Instant-Charge Capacitor Batteries Set to Electrify Market | Gadget Lab from Wired.com

High power, fast charge, long life... The electric trifecta