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May 17th, 2008, 01:22 AM
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| Obama criticizes McCain for 'naive' foreign policy Yahoo News - AP Quote:
WATERTOWN, S.D. - Barack Obama laid into John McCain on Friday for advancing a tough-guy foreign policy that he called "naive and irresponsible," serving notice that he's ready to launch a full-throttle challenge to the Republican presidential contender on international relations in the general election campaign.
Lumping McCain together with President Bush, Obama declared: "If they want a debate about protecting the United States of America, that's a debate I'm ready to win because George Bush and John McCain have a lot to answer for." He blamed Bush for policies that enhance the strength of terrorist groups such as Hamas and "the fact that al-Qaida's leadership is stronger than ever because we took our eye off the ball in Afghanistan," among other failings.
McCain agreed, at least, that there were huge differences between himself and Obama on foreign policy, and said he'd be happy to let the American people decide who was right.
"It would be a wonderful thing if we lived in a world where we don't have enemies. But that's not the world we live in. And until Senator Obama understands that reality, the American people have every reason to doubt whether he has the strength, judgment and determination to keep us safe," McCain said in a speech to the National Rifle Association in Louisville, Ky.
| Well, isn't that the pot calling the kettle black. 
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May 17th, 2008, 01:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster | When Obama criticizes a tough stance against enemies, he proves beyond doubt what an ass he is. His way is not new by any means as it has been tried before over the centuries. Always ending in disaster and death far greater than a tough stance.
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May 17th, 2008, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah L When Obama criticizes a tough stance against enemies, he proves beyond doubt what an ass he is. His way is not new by any means as it has been tried before over the centuries. Always ending in disaster and death far greater than a tough stance. | Just like Bush....right ?
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May 17th, 2008, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Sarah L When Obama criticizes a tough stance against enemies, he proves beyond doubt what an ass he is. His way is not new by any means as it has been tried before over the centuries. Always ending in disaster and death far greater than a tough stance. | Enemies, just what had the Iraqi people done to become enemies.
Just how did invading Iraq save many more people from dying.
More people couldn't have died if you'd left Iraq alone.
It was a mess from GWI, when Bush snr encouraged the Shia and Kurds to oust SH, then deserted them when they needed help, allowing tens of thousands to die in reprisals.
Then 10 years of sanctions, which they estimate half a million babies died from malnutrition and water borne diseases, because their electricity, sewerage and water purification plants had been destroyed by bombs and missiles.
And now another million have died because of the lies, and giving the moron Bush his illegal war of aggression in Iraq.
Just tell me how more people would have died if the weapons inspectors had been given time to prove there were no weapons of mass destruction. And Iraq was assisted to rebuild. |
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May 17th, 2008, 07:03 AM
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Coming from a 3-year freshman Senator.  |
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May 17th, 2008, 07:05 AM
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May 17th, 2008, 07:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Toadman Coming from a 3-year freshman Senator.  | Kennedy was a relatively new senator too but could at a minimum hold his own with Richard Nixon, a two-term Vice President, in foreign policy.
McCain has definitely more years but has managed to exercise the wrong judgement in most of those years.
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McCain is like Chuck. He creates straw men to argue against. Obama never claimed we don't have enemies. That's the kind of absolutely absurd statement that is starting to expose McCain's weaknesses.
On a less important note, he is a terrible teleprompter reader. He can't get more than a brief phrase out without squinting to read what he's supposed to be saying. I know that's not really a substantive issue, but it sure makes it hard to watch his speeches. Quote: |
When Obama criticizes a tough stance against enemies, he proves beyond doubt what an ass he is.
| Umm . . . I don't believe he has done so. He may have criticized a course of action that some believe is "tough" but he hasn't advocated any non "tough" stance, either. So like McCain, you are just making stuff up.
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May 17th, 2008, 10:22 AM
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Kennedy was a relatively new senator too but could at a minimum hold his own with Richard Nixon, a two-term Vice President, in foreign policy.
| And Kennedy emboldened Kruschev to put missiles in Cuba leading to a crisis that nearly started WW3.
Obama is a child, and will be treated like one by our friends, and a punk by our enemies.
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Originally Posted by Chuckiechan And Kennedy emboldened Kruschev to put missiles in Cuba leading to a crisis that nearly started WW3.
Obama is a child, and will be treated like one by our friends, and a punk by our enemies. | You can't really compare Kennedy with Obama unless you're saying Obama is a heavy prescription drug user like Kennedy was during that time.
He was on heavy painkillers for back pain, during that Crisis.
You'd rather have someone that if elected will be the oldest man ever put into that office? I think a sharp well educated man like Obama would be able to think circles around McCain.
How old was Regan at his second term? Anyone remember?
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