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July 5th, 2008, 10:56 AM #1
Bush's July 4th Monticello speech cherry picks Jefferson quotation
What words did Bush eliminate from the Jefferson quote? 10 points for the right answer.
Originally Posted by Bush
When those who believe in any of the available gods understand why they deny all other gods, they should come to understand why atheists lack a belief in theirs.
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July 5th, 2008, 11:36 AM #2
Google is your friend.
I'm hardly surprised that Bush would do this, or that you'd pick up on it.In judging a two-person singing contest, never award the prize to the second soprano having heard only the first.
-- Francis Bator
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July 5th, 2008, 12:07 PM #3
Actually Theo, I didn't pick up on it as much as I stumbled upon it at one of my favourite legal blogs that specialises in the Constitution of the United States, the principles behind the Separation of Church and State and the issues that arise, as well as correcting erroneous claims of what the Founders had to say.
Bush Edits Out Jefferson's Religious Views
I wanted to open the thread with a question hoping to stimulate a bit of intellectual curiosity.When those who believe in any of the available gods understand why they deny all other gods, they should come to understand why atheists lack a belief in theirs.
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July 5th, 2008, 03:02 PM #4Or in Bush's case, monkish ignorance and fear.Jefferson made many such statements, of course. Clearly they are best edited out by those who advocate nothing if not monkish ignorance and superstition.You can't fix stupidity.
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July 5th, 2008, 09:46 PM #5
I find that George W Bush , by far, the most irresponsible and reprehensible president (?) in our Country's history and has the Balls utter Jefferson's name and misquote the man to boot. As bad as Sadamn was, I beleive Bush has ruined more lives and institutions thru ignorance and arrogance by his twisted but purposeful applications and collusions. His abuse of the power of the presidency is unprecedented in the annals of humanity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iE9TN...eature=related
The Nation which forgets it's defenders will itself be forgotten
You cannot make peace with dictators. You have to destroy them–wipe them out!
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July 6th, 2008, 12:17 PM #6Isn't that the essence of what Obama was trying to say but was vilified for in the press and by right-wing talking heads?...arousing men to burst the chains under which monkish ignorance and superstition had persuaded them to bind themselves...
Last edited by TOAD6147; July 6th, 2008 at 12:20 PM.
"Education: That which discloses to the wise and disguises from the
foolish their lack of understanding."
Ambrose Bierce
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July 6th, 2008, 04:43 PM #7
Counting bodies like sheep...
And the sheep follow men who use a speech stating rights apply to all men in order to rally for murder by the millions...and in the same breath can gather adherence to stating not everyone (gitmo, gays, etc) deserves the rights of man to keep the mindless in line with other methods of control (cough, religion, ignorance, irrationality).
But maybe there's nothing wrong with letting lemmings jump from the cliff if they know no better. The hard part is finding a safe spot to watch from when the lemmings are equipped with nuclear weapons and ammunition containing depleted radioactives.
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