What you need to know about BHO

[Toadman]

Why can't folks lay out valid points and talk about that... without trying to rip each others nuts off?

It's called being a good little PC Socialist.

Anybody step back once and think that this is EXACTLY what "they" want?

See above. The sheeple need to be polarized into good vs. bad so everyone takes sides. United we stand, divided we fall. A Classic Sun Tzu no-brainer. Divide and conquer. We're in the dilution phase breaking up unity.

[jokostel]

I can see it happening... your 100% right. Sad thing is, some folks are too damn blind to see.

[him61]

The Right Wing it seems, has gone nuts. It has come to the point where they have to cling to their editorial fallacies to justify their opinions. But then again, what do they have to look forward to in the near future?

[Toadman]

The Left as well. See how it works Him61? Pull back to an overhead shot. Compromise and intelligent debate is out of the question amidst accusations of God-knows-what.

The less we have in common the more to be politically exploited for gain by those with non-partisan nefarious ambitions of power.

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by him61

The Right Wing it seems, has gone nuts. It has come to the point where they have to cling to their editorial fallacies to justify their opinions.

It's even more than that. The right-wing has to divert us from the real issues of healthcare, the economy, Iraq, energy and the future Supreme Court nominees. They have no case on the issues so they instead question Obama's (the way they did Kerry's) patriotism. In 2004, it was all about stopping gay rights. After the election, there was dead silence about it.

[him61]

Originally Posted by Toadman

The Left as well.

I know that. But out in public, and especially on this debate forum, I see more hardball BS from the right than I see from the left.

See how it works Him61? Pull back to an overhead shot. Compromise and intelligent debate is out of the question amidst accusations of God-knows-what.

I'm all for civilized debate and discussion if you guys are. I see none of the sort here, and every time I try to hold civilized debate online, I have had very negative results.

The less we have in common the more to be politically exploited for gain by those with non-partisan nefarious ambitions of power.

Indeed

[The Real Bingo]

Originally Posted by Pexster

Bingo, very little of what you posted is substantive IN ANY WAY as it might relate to the policy differences between McCain and Obama. I don't understand your point in posting 90% of it. The ONLY part that is meaningful at all is that Obama has limited experience and a liberal voting record. What was the point of the rest of your post?

So the company he's kept doesn't bother you?

Taking nuclear weapons off the table doesn't bother you?

Chatting with Iran's "president" without preconditions doesn't bother you?

Windfall taxes don't bother you?

His lack of a plan doesn't bother you?

The absence of anything on his resume to qualify him for the position of U.S. President doesn't bother you?


What else do you need to convince you this guy isn't the right guy to lead our country? If that's not enough, I question your faculties to reason and make informed judgment.

[Pexster]

You have grossly distorted his positions, probably through willful ignorance of what he has presented as his positions. I can make informed judgments because I take the time to be informed. Unfortunately, you increasingly appear to revel in the most mean-spirited and dishonest rumor-mongering.

[The Real Bingo]

If you say so. And thanks for taking the time to refute what I said.

[The Real Bingo]

Originally Posted by jokostel

Anybody step back once and think that this is EXACTLY what "they" want?
For all of us to bitch and moan about crap like this... and not the real issues at hand?

Those things all real issues. They guy has no real leadership experience...which is why Presidents are typically governors, or at least senior members of the Congress.

Originally Posted by Shipuuden

Maybe it's because all his promises seem to good to be true, or maybe it's history trying to repeat itself.

Nope...they aren't "too good".

Originally Posted by him61

The Right Wing it seems, has gone nuts. It has come to the point where they have to cling to their editorial fallacies to justify their opinions. But then again, what do they have to look forward to in the near future?

What's fallacious about it?