What you need to know about BHO

[Disley]

Ah well, it's probably as relevant as the crap TRB writes about Obama, I didn't even know he was a Muslim.

[him61]

Originally Posted by The Real Bingo

What's fallacious about it?

Almost everything you have ever said on this thread is either a lie, or a play on words. I have to go to work now though, so I'll point out what Fox News and your favorite Right Wing propaganda artists have tried to lead you to believe when I get back.

C ya!

[MTAtech]

Originally Posted by The Real Bingo

How's this for a plan: rid the world of nuclear weapons. This guy has lost his marbles. If he's thinking about getting rid of nukes, just imagine what he'll do with your guns! What a nut.

Maybe more federal oversight for schools is a good plan. Yeah, I want people from D.C. running schools.

Wealth redistribution is a sure-fire winner, right?

I guess this was an honest mistake.

More fun.

Neal Boortz's site - as well as American Thinker - is a gold mine of Obama material.

All this is subterfuge. Your article about getting rid of nuclear weapons is about Obama's plan to secure nuclear material from falling into terrorist hands. That's a bad thing by you? It's been American policy for a long time but we haven't done as much as we should to make it so. Obama's plan is strong.

After No Child Left Behind, I don't see how you can bitch that Obama wants people from D.C. running schools. Where have you been for eight years? I haven't heard a peep complaining about NCLB.

To expand upon what Pexster said about your claim of "income redistribution," I also didn't read you complaining when Bush redistributed taxes away from those who earn money from investments to those who earn it through wages. The two Bush tax plans were the biggest transfer of wealth from the middle-class to the wealthy.

The first Bush tax-cut was sold during the 2000 campaign as a way of returning budget surpluses to the people. Like an insurance salesman with one product, once the economy turned to deficits, Bush changed the sales pitch to stimulus that would fight recession. Tax-cuts in good times, tax-cuts in bad times.

It would have been all and good if at least the promises of those tax-cuts came true. President’s Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) announced that 2.2 million jobs would be created between 2001 and 2004 as a direct consequence of passage of the $2.1 trillion tax cuts. In actuality, those years had job losses.

The tax-cuts were policy failures (at least compared to their stated goal). If they were a failure, one would have to have lost their marbles not to reverse them.

The idea that there is something wrong with sitting down to a table with a foreign leader without preconditions underscores right-wing arrogance. According to them, foreign leaders must come crawling on their knees for the privilege of talking to us. Would U.S. diplomats meet with Chinese diplomats if China demanded preconditions? Did Roosevelt demand preconditions to meet with Stalin? It's a phony issue.

Read: Debunking Obama Smears

[TOAD6147]

Originally Posted by jokostel

Anybody step back once and think that this is EXACTLY what "they" want?
For all of us to bitch and moan about crap like this... and not the real issues at hand?

I'm pretty sure that is exactly the point Gomer is trying to make. The shit TRB is shoveling is the stuff you scrap off your shoes after a day on an elementary school play ground.
But I do have to add that it appears that you have your own fears, misconceptions, and problems to overcome to see through the same BS. It seems you are giving in to the same sound bites that TRB is trying to serve up as real issues. I would suggest that the company McBush keeps presently is a lot more troubling than anyone Obama may have been in the presence of in the past. And as far as attending a church must mean that you revere it's pastor is more of the BS. I've been "attending" the same church for 30 years but I don't care for the pastor and haven't for some time. It's not about the pastor; for many it's about the church family, it's people, the community, (almost sounds communist doesn't it?), and what they stand for. But for someone who stood by Bush for so long, TRB has balls dissing someone who tried to stand by their pastor in the face of adversity.

[jokostel]

Im just tired of the bickering and the fighting... not only here, but in our congress.
This isnt a playground. We are all adults. Everyone needs to act accordingly.
Congress especially.. all they do is backstab and bicker... get nothing done. Apparently, many other Americans notice this as well.... hence their approval rating. ~ 8 %.


I really would like to see everyone grow a set of balls, sit down and settle differences like men. It's the 21st century, and we dont necessarily need to restort to a "gun in the face" method to get things to function.

[The Real Bingo]

Originally Posted by MTAtech

All this is subterfuge. Your article about getting rid of nuclear weapons is about Obama's plan to secure nuclear material from falling into terrorist hands. That's a bad thing by you? It's been American policy for a long time but we haven't done as much as we should to make it so. Obama's plan is strong.

He wants to get rid of nuclear weapons. That's the talk of an insane man, just like the gun control nuts.

After No Child Left Behind, I don't see how you can bitch that Obama wants people from D.C. running schools. Where have you been for eight years? I haven't heard a peep complaining about NCLB.

Yep.

To expand upon what Pexster said about your claim of "income redistribution," I also didn't read you complaining when Bush redistributed taxes away from those who earn money from investments to those who earn it through wages. The two Bush tax plans were the biggest transfer of wealth from the middle-class to the wealthy.

Hahaha, OK...whatever you say. I guess jobs don't provide wealth.

The first Bush tax-cut was sold during the 2000 campaign as a way of returning budget surpluses to the people. Like an insurance salesman with one product, once the economy turned to deficits, Bush changed the sales pitch to stimulus that would fight recession. Tax-cuts in good times, tax-cuts in bad times.

Tax cuts are good no matter when the time. Do you think Bush is running in 2008?

It would have been all and good if at least the promises of those tax-cuts came true. President’s Council of Economic Advisers (CEA) announced that 2.2 million jobs would be created between 2001 and 2004 as a direct consequence of passage of the $2.1 trillion tax cuts. In actuality, those years had job losses.

State the stats that fit your plan. Good job. How about from 2004 to 2007? Unemployment dropped to where it was in 2001.

The tax-cuts were policy failures (at least compared to their stated goal). If they were a failure, one would have to have lost their marbles not to reverse them.

OK.

The idea that there is something wrong with sitting down to a table with a foreign leader without preconditions underscores right-wing arrogance. According to them, foreign leaders must come crawling on their knees for the privilege of talking to us. Would U.S. diplomats meet with Chinese diplomats if China demanded preconditions? Did Roosevelt demand preconditions to meet with Stalin? It's a phony issue.

You're probably right. But I don't want to see what Obama would agree to with Ahmadinejad, or what kind of lies he'd believe.

Read: Debunking Obama Smears

Thanks for the material. Almost as interesting as a dictionary.

[The Real Bingo]

Originally Posted by TOAD6147

I'm pretty sure that is exactly the point Gomer is trying to make. The shit TRB is shoveling is the stuff you scrap off your shoes after a day on an elementary school play ground.
But I do have to add that it appears that you have your own fears, misconceptions, and problems to overcome to see through the same BS. It seems you are giving in to the same sound bites that TRB is trying to serve up as real issues. I would suggest that the company McBush keeps presently is a lot more troubling than anyone Obama may have been in the presence of in the past. And as far as attending a church must mean that you revere it's pastor is more of the BS. I've been "attending" the same church for 30 years but I don't care for the pastor and haven't for some time. It's not about the pastor; for many it's about the church family, it's people, the community, (almost sounds communist doesn't it?), and what they stand for. But for someone who stood by Bush for so long, TRB has balls dissing someone who tried to stand by their pastor in the face of adversity.

OK. So a guy running for the seat of President shouldn't feel odd about attending a church where the pastor says "God damn America"? He only quits the church when the media starts getting on his case about it. The guy is a slimeball who will do anything to become President.

[Pexster]

I realize I am in a small minority here, but I watched Rev. Wright's address to the Press Club in its entirety, and I didn't disagree with a single thing he said. Unfortunately, many people are not ready to have an open and honest dialogue about race relations in our society. Obama's speech on the issue was refreshing and uplifting. We'll see how it plays out.

[jokostel]

The majority of the race issues in this country stems from non whites themselves.
Most white folks don't honestly give a shit about race, nor do they have time to care about skin pigment.... not to mention why bother?

It's the damn uppidty segment of whites/blacks/mexicans/asians that taint society, and start a bunch of crap.


Learn from history. Better yourself.

It's kind of like picking or reopening a huge cut on your arm. After a while if you don't leave it alone.... it'll fester and get worse.

[The Real Bingo]

Originally Posted by Pexster

I realize I am in a small minority here, but I watched Rev. Wright's address to the Press Club in its entirety, and I didn't disagree with a single thing he said. Unfortunately, many people are not ready to have an open and honest dialogue about race relations in our society. Obama's speech on the issue was refreshing and uplifting. We'll see how it plays out.

So that begs the question - if Obama agreed with what Wright said - why did Obama quit the church? Either way you look at it, Obama is either: a) a guy who associates with people who wish bad things to happen to the USA, or b) a guy who only does things that will help him win the presidency.