August 7th, 2008, 12:13 PM
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I'm thinking all recent polls as well as future polls that rely on the landline phone are skewed.
Obama has captured a large percentage of the youthful vote. Can anyone tell me how many youths today have a landline? A lot of young folks don't need the landline considering they have opted for the cell only. Cell numbers aren't published.
So in the case of this election where an old fuddy-duddy is running against a younger charismatic opponent, aren't the polls skewed since Obama has captured a large percentage of the youthful vote?
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August 7th, 2008, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by engracio Hey MTAtech he is not stating an opinion, he is stating a fact. Try to deny that.  | McCain is only a hero if one lowers the bar on the definition of 'hero.' Some would say that anyone who serves in wartime is a hero. I think that's just politically correct nonsense. (Jessica Lynch wasn't a hero.)
I consider a hero someone who saved other's lives while risking his own. Jack Kennedy comes to mind. Kennedy saved wounded crew members who would have drown while he was injured himself.
McCain managed to get shot down and captured. I will grant that he was brave not to break under torture. Does that make him a hero? Well, the same people who call McCain a hero deny John Kerry hero status, even though Kerry saved other soldier's lives.
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August 7th, 2008, 12:38 PM
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And some of the same people who would, in all likelihood, advocate that anyone denigrating McCain's "hero" status be publically stoned, stood idly by or actively participated in the John Kerry Swiftboating.
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August 7th, 2008, 12:41 PM
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ANY Soldier who fought for this country with honor and destinction deserves more than your general attention. He/ She deserves your undying respect.
The title of "hero"...? Any soldier that was in battle will tell you that they are not a hero.
It was the man next to him, or the man who saved his ass, or the guy who jumped on a grenade.... basically, the boys who didn't come home. |
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August 7th, 2008, 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by MTAtech I consider a hero someone who saved other's lives while risking his own. Jack Kennedy comes to mind. Kennedy saved wounded crew members who would have drown while he was injured himself.
McCain managed to get shot down and captured. I will grant that he was brave not to break under torture. Does that make him a hero? . | That is in my opinion an "opinion". What I stated previously and asked you are facts. As someone have said already, let's separate facts and opinions.
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August 7th, 2008, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by jokostel ANY Soldier who fought for this country with honor and distinction deserves more than your general attention. He/ She deserves your undying respect.
The title of "hero"...? Any soldier that was in battle will tell you that they are not a hero.
It was the man next to him, or the man who saved his ass, or the guy who jumped on a grenade.... basically, the boys who didn't come home. | I agree about deserving attention and undying respect. That's why Republicans are hypocrites on this issue. During the Republican National Convention in 2004, delegates mocked Kerry with 'purple heart' bandages. Of course, now that McCain is their candidate, military service is sacred and can only be mentioned in the most glowing light.
My father served in WWII and saw combat, yet never considered himself a hero. |
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August 7th, 2008, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MTAtech
My father served in WWII and saw combat, yet never considered himself a hero. | My point exactly.. I guarandamn tee ya that if youd asked him who was... he'd choke up and mention a handfull of his old buddies, who never got to see the world without war. |
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August 7th, 2008, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by MTAtech McCain is only a hero if one lowers the bar on the definition of 'hero.' Some would say that anyone who serves in wartime is a hero. I think that's just politically correct nonsense. (Jessica Lynch wasn't a hero.)
I consider a hero someone who saved other's lives while risking his own. Jack Kennedy comes to mind. Kennedy saved wounded crew members who would have drown while he was injured himself.
McCain managed to get shot down and captured. I will grant that he was brave not to break under torture. Does that make him a hero? Well, the same people who call McCain a hero deny John Kerry hero status, even though Kerry saved other soldier's lives. | To stay off topic briefly, wouldn't most wartime vets fall under your definition? I would say that unless you get really lucky with your assignments, being in the military during the war is risking your life. And even if you don't agree with whatever war it is, the people fighting are probably saving somebody's life...
Oh, and to Beemer: I am in the young demographic (twenty-something fresh from college) and I did not hop onto the Obama boat. Actually, I would have answered the poll questions regarding media much like the average (I am sick of hearing about Obama bout would like to learn more about McCain).
Truth be told I am not wowed by either candidate, but for the moment Obama bothers me more.
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August 7th, 2008, 04:28 PM
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This is great. This thread was about Nobama's lack of a commanding lead, and the lefties have swift boated the topic into being about McCain. 
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Originally Posted by Beemer Obama has captured a large percentage of the youthful vote. | |
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