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August 18th, 2008, 10:30 PM
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| Victim forced to pay child support to abuser.
The "father" was 15 when a 19 year old girl had sex with him and got pregnant. The mother of course was charged with statutory rape since she was 19 at the time. Quote:
Crane, meanwhile, faces criminal charges. A Fairfield County grand jury indicted her last month on two counts of unlawful sexual conduct with a minor, a fourth-degree felony. Conviction carries a maximum sentence of 18 months in prison and a requirement to register as a sex offender for 25 years.
Crane is living with the baby and her family in Lancaster.
The boy's parents say they can provide a better upbringing for the baby than Crane can. Her household includes her stepfather, David L. Jacobs, who was convicted of domestic violence last year for hitting, choking and pointing a gun at Crane's 17-year-old sister and was placed on two years' probation, court records show.
"We don't want to have our granddaughter abused by these people," the boy's father said. "We are trying to do the right thing.
"The child support was the icing on the cake. I couldn't believe that our son has to pay child support to his abuser." | As it stands right now he, the victim, is required to pay child support to his abuser. The parents want the child taken away from the woman since she "may" have commited a crime! Quote: |
Crane, now 21, is not a suitable custodial parent in part because she may have committed a felony by having sexual intercourse with a minor younger than 16, the boy's parents argue in court papers seeking custody.
| I agree the child deserves support, but I really think the young boys parents should be allowed to have the child custody. The mother has already proven herself incapable of making good decisions wether she is found guilty of statutory rape or not.
Do you think they should take the child away from the mother?
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August 19th, 2008, 12:58 AM
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I couldn't believe that our son has to pay child support to his abuser."
| He's an oppressive male, inherently evil by nature, even being ridden reverse cowgirl cuffed to the headboard. And you know he's enjoying it like a 15 year old tramp chick also but maybe for different reasons . He's the one who's f'd.
Stories like this warm the cockles and re-affirm beliefs that westernized women are femmy-infested shit. Not inherently, because you can't beat a dog for pissing on the rug, but by laws and kangaroo family court systems allowing them to get away much just short of murder with zero accountability. I know the girls here disagree vehemently with me and take it personally but that's their anger problem for speaking facts that pan out in statistical reality.
I hope he and his family gets custody and he is awarded child support if he wants to keep it.
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August 19th, 2008, 01:46 AM
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I'm having a problem with the word abuse. I can't seem to find the abuse in the story. Did something else happen that was omitted from the article?
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August 19th, 2008, 02:07 AM
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Er, the last sentence in my first quote in the post. The parent said: Quote: |
"The child support was the icing on the cake. I couldn't believe that our son has to pay child support to his abuser."
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"It is an age and maturity issue, not a gender issue," Dillon said. "He's a young boy coming into his own, being taken advantage of by an adult."
| While I have a problem with that description, By law, she is a rapist. Under the law, she is the abuser in the relationship BECAUSE she is considered an adult. |
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August 19th, 2008, 03:19 AM
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I don't know about anyone else but when I was 15, I wouldn't have been thinking it was abuse.  |
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August 19th, 2008, 08:40 AM
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August 19th, 2008, 12:32 PM
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These statutory rape crimes are such bullshit. There's no gray area. If an 18-year-old boy does it with a 16-year-old girlfriend, it's rape? They're both high schoolers and presumably reasonably mature. It's ridiculous.
Anyway, yes, I think he should have to pay child support. Either that, or marry the woman. It's his kid, his responsibility. He shouldn't have porked her if he wasn't ready for the responsibility of a child...and I don't believe he was "forced" to have sex with her, either.
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August 19th, 2008, 09:45 PM
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This is ridicules. Come on parents, your son wasn't "raped". I'll bet he had a shit eating grin on his face the whole time. As far as custody goes, that should be determined by the mothers actions. If she has the baby in a house with a truly abusive person, as the article suggests, then may be the father's family should have custody.
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August 19th, 2008, 10:24 PM
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Beemer, the parent said it, you can ignore it as much as you like. While I disagree with it being "abuse", the law is what decides, not my opinion(lame attempt to blame religion though). |
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August 20th, 2008, 10:29 PM
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I didn't try to blame religion in any way shape of form. I gave an example of true abuse that was included on the same page as the article you linked. Compare the 2 instances and you tell me which is actual abuse.
-The boy should bepaying child support.
-His parents should stop wasting the courts time and let their kid learn a lesson.
-The older girl asking for child support was stupid for doing so since it was quite possible to open a whole can of worms. (which it has)
I wonder if the boy was even a virgin.
This situation doesn't call for any kind of punishment. What it does call for is the baby being taken care of in what ever way the court deems fitting.
2 young people got together and had sex. Big F**king deal. Punishing the girl by giving her a sexual offender status along with jail time won't make the babies life any easier.
Look for the best possible outcome. A rational brain won't come up with "punish the girl". |
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