If your children are too fat, we will TAKE them from you. - Tech Support Forums

no1_vern · August 20th, 2008, 01:27 AM

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It predicted that social services would have to intervene "more and more" with obese children. It added that councils would have to take action against parents who put their children's health at risk, with the ultimate sanction of taking the fattest boys and girls into care.

Do YOU think obese children should be removed from their parents care??

Chuckiechan · August 20th, 2008, 02:41 AM

Yes. Obama is going to give them $ 1000 and a pat on the butt and tell them "Eat No More Twinkies"! And it will be done...

You can argue childhood obesity is due to neurosis caused my sitting in front of a TV set and not wanting to go out and play and catch a bullet like the rest of the kids.

Neurosis = shrinks = blame parents = another ward of the state = another job for a state worker = one more vote for a Democrat.

him61 · August 20th, 2008, 03:12 AM

Not at all. England's government is not doing the right thing here.

And Chuckie, I do not see Obama mentioned anywhere in the article, or Democrats mentioned either. Just how paranoid are you of the American left?

Toadman · August 20th, 2008, 03:23 AM

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It added that councils would have to take action against parents who put their children's health at risk, with the ultimate sanction of taking the fattest boys and girls into care.

What about obese wives? Don't they need protection and care also?

Dude111 · August 20th, 2008, 05:21 AM

I dont think they should be taken away...... (Its not the parents fault)

Epidemic · August 20th, 2008, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dude111

I dont think they should be taken away...... (Its not the parents fault)

Ummmmm! who's fault is it? I don't think fault is at issue here (the parents should be teaching and enforcing healthy behavior) the question is does this rise to the level of child abuse?

5 years ago I might have leaned toward the taking of porky kids from mcdonalds pushing parents... But I have seen two families with Fatty kids finish reaching puberty and in both cases their kids were pretty fricking fat but they also grew taller and grew into their blubber buts to become normal adult forms.

Now there is also scale to consider. 4'6" and 500 lbs (that is just plain abuse) But way fatter than I would like is still acceptable AFAIAC.

TrendyMartini · August 20th, 2008, 09:45 AM

I honestly think it depends. A parent has the responsibility to care for the health of their children.. if you're children are obese and could be ill because of it, there is definitely some negligence there. If the parents have been given warnings as to the detrimental affects of the eating and exercise habits of their child and the parent still continues to do nothing about it.. Then yes, for the sake of the child, they should be removed or a mandatory diet/exercise program should have to be followed.

The parent has the control in this situation, they feed them the Oreo cookies and bringing them to fast food places... allowing them to just sit for hours on end in front of their video games and computers. They have to be held accountable.

SeanC · August 20th, 2008, 09:55 AM

Now there's the other side of the coin, what if the parents *are* ensuring their kids get enough exercise by going outside with them and running and playing ball and whatever else. Don't take them to fast food for every meal, have them enrolled in organized sports and the kids are still obese?

IMO, in a situation like that, is it the parents fault? No because they are doing everything they can and their child is still overweight.

Steve R Jones · August 20th, 2008, 10:00 AM

Sure, obese children are an issue. But wouldn’t removing them from their parents be a pretty traumatic experience? Screwed up and obese seems worse?

TrendyMartini · August 20th, 2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by SeanC

Now there's the other side of the coin, what if the parents *are* ensuring their kids get enough exercise by going outside with them and running and playing ball and whatever else. Don't take them to fast food for every meal, have them enrolled in organized sports and the kids are still obese?

IMO, in a situation like that, is it the parents fault? No because they are doing everything they can and their child is still overweight.

If that were the case, it seems as though it would be a medical condition and not the fault of the parent. The odds of that being the actual scenario are slim to none, though.

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Originally Posted by Steve R Jones

Sure, obese children are an issue. But wouldn’t removing them from their parents be a pretty traumatic experience? Screwed up and obese seems worse?

Yes, it would be traumatic. But dropping dead because your organs are failing due to the stress and strain put on them due to the weight they have that their body just can't handle would suck pretty badly too, don't you think? I don't think that it's an ideal situation.. the parents should be given the opportunity to work with the child and make progress; I'm not saying rip them away from them.. possibly enroll the child in some kind of program or temporary "camp" in order to establish better habits, giving the parents visitation for the time they are there.