August 25th, 2008, 03:45 AM
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| Democrats open faith-filled convention with prayer Democrats open faith-filled convention with prayer - Yahoo! News Quote:
DENVER - At the first official event Sunday of the Democratic National Convention, a choir belted out a gospel song and was followed by a rabbi reciting a Torah reading about forgiveness and the future.
Helen Prejean, the Catholic nun who wrote "Dead Man Walking," assailed the death penalty and the use of torture.
Young Muslim women in headscarves sat near older African-American women in their finest Sunday hats.
Four years ago, such a scene would have been unthinkable at a Democratic National Convention. In 2004, there was one interfaith lunch at the Democratic gala in Boston.
But that same year, "values voters" helped re-elect President Bush, giving Democrats of faith the opening they needed to make party leaders listen to them.
"There still is a possibility that Obama will chip into the Republican advantage with this religious outreach," Hertzke said. "Even if he gains just a few points, that could be decisive in a close election."
| This is the same group that so fervently attacked the religious right just four years ago. My how times have changed. . . 
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August 25th, 2008, 12:50 PM
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Young Muslim women in headscarves sat near older African-American women in their finest Sunday hats.
| Not anywhere near Barry Obama, I'm guessing.
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August 25th, 2008, 12:58 PM
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It seems the Left's Hypocrisy know no bounds. |
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August 25th, 2008, 01:15 PM
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What does this distraction have to do with the real issues of the economy, energy, healthcare and the war?
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August 25th, 2008, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by MTAtech What does this distraction have to do with the real issues of the economy, energy, healthcare and the war? | So predictable..... |
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August 25th, 2008, 01:26 PM
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This is the same group that so fervently attacked the religious right just four years ago. My how times have changed. . .
| And will continue to attack them, I hope. You are confusing faith and religion with religion-driven politics.
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August 25th, 2008, 01:49 PM
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And on a Sunday nonetheless!!! Quote:
Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster This is the same group that so fervently attacked the religious right just four years ago. My how times have changed. . .  | Quote:
Originally Posted by Shipuuden It seems the Left's Hypocrisy know no bounds. | As Pex pointed out... non-denominational prayer is different than the "Religious Right"... you know, the "Agents of Intolerance" that McCain attacked back in 2000... the guys he is buddy-buddying up to now. Quote: |
Senator John McCain, in a provocative and politically risky speech, sharply criticized leaders of the religious right on Monday as "agents of intolerance" allied to his rival, Governor George W. Bush, and denounced what he said were the tactics of "division and slander." Specifically, Mr. McCain singled out the evangelists Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell as "corrupting influences on religion and politics" and said parts of the religious right were divisive and even un-American.
| Talk about your hypocrisy. And your selective memory/tunnel vision Shipuuden. |
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August 25th, 2008, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gomer Talk about your hypocrisy. And your selective memory/tunnel vision Shipuuden. | In 2000 there were more important thing to me than Politics. You know the usual, playing in the school yard, normal 12 year old stuff. |
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August 25th, 2008, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Shipuuden In 2000 there were more important thing to me than Politics. You know the usual, playing in the school yard, normal 12 year old stuff. | He flip-flopped in 2006, hence my "tunnel vision" statement. It's been in the news. You missed it? You're not still playing in the school yard are you? |
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August 25th, 2008, 03:20 PM
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While I always applaud the inclusion of all types of people into the political arena, it does seem rather ironic that the Democrats are only now actively engaging the "religious" groups since they played a key roll in the '00 and '04 elections.
But, as MTA said, this is a side issue involving political pandering. Something we will always deal with. The real issues are education, economy, war, and healthcare.
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