Catholic bishops correct Pelosi on abortion

[Bill in SD, CA]

Originally Posted by Creatures

feels good to be back ;p



after 1 year away from this board and nothing changed ;p

well excuzzzeme (nice name btw) summed up why I left back then, but after a while life is so dull without discussions about such topics (and trust me discussing topics like abortion and death penalty in switzerland is like talking to a choir)

so i'm back again.... ....again ;p

i guess everyone missed me dearly *cough* *cough*

Creatures

You sound familiar.



Bill

[Creatures]

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

Gotta love the liberal mindset. It's fine and dandy to kill innocent, unborn babies. But you can't kill convicted murderers.

big difference between those two, an unborn baby which has no brain, is technally not alive (like a brain dead person only kept alive by the machines he's hooked on) therefore it's not killing.

a murderer is alive and every government afaik says that murder is wrong. now why should the government be allowed to disobey their own laws?

put them in a cell and let them in there forever, believe me, t's worse than being killed.

Ghley

[excuzzzeme]

Originally Posted by MTAtech

Nobody likes getting abortions.. . . . . . . "

You might be right about that, but it appears to me that far too many use it to excuse their lack of self-control and responsibility.

[Creatures]

Originally Posted by excuzzzeme

You might be right about that, but it appears to me that far too many use it to excuse their lack of self-control and responsibility.

condoms have only 99.9% succes rate and the pill isn't 100% save too

it can happen

BTW i prefer abortion than overpopulating the earth with more of those "iresponsible" people

Creatures

[Steve R Jones]

I think we have too many hungry children now to be worrying about unborn ones. And I’m much more concerned about altering DNA to make super kids then I am about abortion.

Abortion is a VERY Personal issue and shouldn’t be governed by God, heads of state or anyone else. Only those involved should have any say so.

My first wife – at age 17, gave child up at birth.
My second wife – was a child that was given up at birth. She was the fourth child born to a twenty six year old woman.

Both of these women suffer equally over the issue. Just try to imagine for a few minutes your own mother not loving you enough to do what it takes to keep you….Or growing up wishing you were a littler older and could have kept your child.

And I’ve been down the paying for an abortion road too. Tried to do the marriage proposal thing or take the baby myself but no joy. It’s a pretty tuff road I don’t recommend.

There is no “one shoe fits all” when it comes to such personal issues.

[J.Pope]

Originally Posted by Creatures

condoms have only 99.9% succes rate and the pill isn't 100% save too

it can happen

BTW i prefer abortion than overpopulating the earth with more of those "iresponsible" people

Creatures

The solution to the problem is simply to KEEP YOUR PANTS ON if you don't want to have a child. If there were no abortions then people would either stop having sex, or they would have to face reality and take responsibility for their actions.

[Pexster]

There will never be no abortions. To think so flies in the face of history and common sense. A more rational solution to the problem is for you and people who think as you do to MYOB when it comes to other people's personal lives. If there were any broad societal agreement on the questions around the beginning of life and the morality of abortion, it would be different. But there is not. Good people of many faiths and religions disagree profoundly in these areas. So called "pro-life" people have no right to impose their self-righteous wills on everyone else.

Finally, basic human biology is at odds with your rather simplistic solution.

[J.Pope]

Originally Posted by Pexster

Finally, basic human biology is at odds with your rather simplistic solution.

I don't see the complications to abstinence. You just don't have sex if you don't want to have a baby.There is also the option for women of getting your tubes tied, or a man can have a vasectomy. Both of these operations are reversible if you ever change your mind.

It is the same with going to jail. Don't break the law and you won't have to worry about it.

[Pexster]

Those are good things to strive for. In the meantime, I'm sure you have your own life to take care of. The nation's women can take care of their own personal choices without your help.

[J.Pope]

Originally Posted by Pexster

Those are good things to strive for. In the meantime, I'm sure you have your own life to take care of. The nation's women can take care of their own personal choices without your help.

I can't tell people what to do with their lives, neither can you. They should cherish a gift from god. That is my personal opinion. But I will let anybody listening or reading know what I think about issues that bother me. Just like every one else on this thread.