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Topic: Mumps outbreak spreads into Metro VancouverAs thousands of children prepare to head back to school, the outbreak, which began in a religious community, has already spread westward into Metro Vancouver — as far as Burnaby. ...
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Old August 27th, 2008, 12:19 PM   Digg it!   #1 (permalink)
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Mumps outbreak spreads into Metro Vancouver
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As thousands of children prepare to head back to school, the outbreak, which began in a religious community, has already spread westward into Metro Vancouver — as far as Burnaby.

There have been 116 confirmed cases of mumps and another 74 suspected cases since February, according to the Fraser Health Authority. On average, the region has only 10 cases a year.

Two people from Alberta carried the mumps to a religious community near Agassiz that has a low rate of vaccinations, said Dr. Elizabeth Brodkin of the Fraser Health Authority.

"My understanding is their interpretation of scripture is that to immunize would be to show a lack of faith in God's ability to protect them, and therefore they choose not to do that," said Brodkin.

Brodkin wouldn't identify the closely knit faith-based community but said the mumps outbreak since spread well beyond that group.

"The virus is kind of travelling underground and popping up every time it encounters somebody who is able to develop clinical mumps that we recognize," said Brodkin.
I thought this was a strange story when I heard it, do you think it's accidental or was it intentional by some people that want to stop the cult?

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Old August 27th, 2008, 12:45 PM     #2 (permalink)
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Then there are the parents that think vaccinations are worse then the cure so they don’t vaccinate their kids....The kids get infected and spread it all over the place to other people that haven’t been vaccinated..

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I know, it would also be a good disease to use to prove vaccinations are necessary.

I was never vaccinated for mumps, were you? They didn't have it way back when I don't think,,,

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pretty much every country in the EU has forced vaccinations after birth, IMO very good, only way to stop things like this from happening


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Old August 28th, 2008, 12:23 PM     #5 (permalink)
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Hi Creatures! Good to see you back.
Here (in the US) kids must be vaccinated before they can start school.
But now they have so many more vaccinations, and of course there is the current controversy that there is a vaccination that is the root of causing Autism in some kids.
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Hysteria spreads faster than light, while truth, if it it contrary to the hysteria spreads like molasses.
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The scientific data, taken in totality, do not support a link between mercury in vaccines and autism. Today yet another important study by Robert Schechter and Judith Grether was released published in the Archives of General Psychiatry entitled Continuing Increases in Autism Reported to California’s Developmental Services System: Mercury in Retrograde1, that utterly failed to support the hypothesis that mercury in vaccines is an etiological factor in autism. It is yet another nail in the coffin of the medical myth that mercury in vaccines causes autism.
Which is more believable? The hysteria based story that doctors dont really know what is going on, or that the study that gave evidence that there was a link between autism and immunizations was flawed?
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Hi Creatures! Good to see you back.
Here (in the US) kids must be vaccinated before they can start school.
But now they have so many more vaccinations, and of course there is the current controversy that there is a vaccination that is the root of causing Autism in some kids.
who's saying that?

those viruses are dead, paralized so they are unable to duplicate or harm the human body, logically there should be no way those dead things could do something

and i mean everyone gets vaccinations here every 10 years and i've never heard that the rate of autists is growing

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The agent the study was the mercury used in the vaccines not the Virii. Check the links I posted above.
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Hysteria spreads faster than light, while truth, if it it contrary to the hysteria spreads like molasses.

Which is more believable? The hysteria based story that doctors dont really know what is going on, or that the study that gave evidence that there was a link between autism and immunizations was flawed?
This is more credible than a blog post, although it is only barely mentioned.


Vaccine-autism link discounted, but effect of "study" is unknown
Dan Lett. Canadian Medical Association. Journal. Ottawa: Oct 9, 2007. Vol. 177, Iss. 8; pg. 841, 1 pgs
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That suggests that coverage rates for the vaccine haven't been impacted and that parents haven't stopped doctors from administering the vaccine, says Mahnaz Farhang Mehr, chief of immunization programs for PHAC. "But it probably ... affected parent's confidence in the vaccine."

"Right now, nobody is able to document or trace the true impact of the MMR study," says Mary Appleton, the senior manager for the Canadian Coalition for Immunization Awareness and Promotion. "Our registration system is simply insufficient."

[Joanne Embree] says parents who rely heavily on walk-in clinics for their health care needs often slip through the cracks of the system. They only approach a physician when their children have a specific health problem, and the subject of whether vaccines are up to date never arises, she adds. "If you do not have a family doctor then you likely don't have someone to remind you to get your vaccines on time."
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Copyright Canadian Medical Association Oct 9, 2007

As the authors of a controversial study that linked the measles, mumps and rubella (MMR) vaccine and autism fend off allegations of professional misconduct, debate over the study's impact on immunization rates continues to rage in Canada.

The hard evidence, though, remains elusive as officials say Canada's tracking system is too woefully inadequate to accurately ascertain the controversy's effect in Canada.

Many immunologists and public health experts believe the study triggered a worldwide decline in the number of children receiving the vaccine ( Lancet 1998;351:634-41, removed online). In the United Kingdom, coverage rates for the vaccine dropped to 75%.

There are little empirical data of a similar decline in Canada. The Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC) reported in the 2006 National Immunization Survey that approximately 91% of Canadian children had received the MMR vaccine. That rate was only slightly lower than the 94% coverage projected in 1997.

That suggests that coverage rates for the vaccine haven't been impacted and that parents haven't stopped doctors from administering the vaccine, says Mahnaz Farhang Mehr, chief of immunization programs for PHAC. "But it probably ... affected parent's confidence in the vaccine."

Public concern about an MMR-autism link resurfaced this summer after the UK General Medical Council announced it would hold hearings into allegations of professional misconduct against Dr. Andrew Wakefield, Professor John Walker-Smith and Professor Simon Murch, 3 of the original authors of the Lancetstudy. Subsequent clinical studies have since failed to confirm the findings. In 2004, 10 of the 12 experts who collaborated with Wakefield retracted the study.

Now before the UK General Medical Council are such alleged ethical breaches as paying children at birthday parties to provide blood samples, and failing to inform the Lancetthat Wakefield was advising lawyers who were representing parents who believed their children were adversely affected by the vaccine.

Although the study's findings have been widely discredited, immunologists and public health officials remain concerned.

"Right now, nobody is able to document or trace the true impact of the MMR study," says Mary Appleton, the senior manager for the Canadian Coalition for Immunization Awareness and Promotion. "Our registration system is simply insufficient."

In Canada and the United States, the health care systems get data on immunization coverage rates from a variety of sources including patient records. However, national surveys in each country rely most heavily on public opinion survey methodology to come up with coverage rate estimates, an approach that many in the field believe is little more than an educated guess.

Among Canadian provinces, only Manitoba has a formal system in place that requires physicians to record in a province-wide registry every immunization administered, Fahrang Mehr said. Without a national registry, it is impossible to determine with absolute certainty what kind of "uptake" there has been on all the major childhood vaccines ( CMAJ2007:176[13]:1811-3).

A widely cited 2006 study found that less than 70% of Canadian 2-year-olds received their full range of vaccines ( Pediatrics 2006;117:595-602). The result was especially troubling given the fact these children had, on average, visited a physician 19 times.

Dr. Joanne Embree, the head of pediatric infectious diseases at the University of Manitoba, says there is widespread concern the lack of specific data, and poor vaccine coverage, is a by-product of the difficulty many Canadians have in finding a regular family doctor or pediatrician.

Embree says parents who rely heavily on walk-in clinics for their health care needs often slip through the cracks of the system. They only approach a physician when their children have a specific health problem, and the subject of whether vaccines are up to date never arises, she adds. "If you do not have a family doctor then you likely don't have someone to remind you to get your vaccines on time."

The shortage of family doctors is also depriving the health care system of much-needed data on how many parents refuse to allow their children to be vaccinated, Embree adds. Almost all family physicians and pediatricians can anecdotally reference families that decline certain vaccines. - Dan Lett, Winnipeg

DOI:10.1503/cmaj.071199
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Data on immunization rates in Canada are suspect in the absence of a national registry.

[Author Affiliation]
Dan Lett, Winnipeg

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Subjects: Vaccines, Autism, Immunization, Social impact, Medical research, Children & youth, Professional misconduct
MeSH subjects: Autistic Disorder -- epidemiology (major), Canada, Child, Humans, Measles-Mumps-Rubella Vaccine (major), Physicians, Family -- supply & distribution, Professional Misconduct, Public Health, Retraction of Publication, Vaccination -- statistics & numerical data (major), Vaccination -- trends
Locations: Canada
Author(s): Dan Lett
Author Affiliation: Dan Lett, Winnipeg
Document types: News
Document features: Photographs
Section: NEWS
Publication title: Canadian Medical Association. Journal. Ottawa: Oct 9, 2007. Vol. 177, Iss. 8; pg. 841, 1 pgs
Source type: Periodical
ISSN: 08203946
ProQuest document ID: 1367748221
Text Word Count 691
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