Manmade CO2 Driven Climate Change |
View Poll Results: Your view on climate change: | |
I believe that climate change is wholly or partially man made.
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For me, it's political: I view this as a liberal agenda and I refuse to accept it.
|    | 4 | 12.12% | |
For me, it's religious: God created this planet and we are too insignificant to mess it up.
|    | 0 | 0% | |
For me, it's financial: I can't accept the science because I don't want to pay to fix it.
|    | 0 | 0% | |
For me, it's about history: the planet has been fine and will continue to be, despite the evidence.
|    | 6 | 18.18% | |
Other
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September 9th, 2008, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Epidemic  Actually I agree earth is balance. The question still remains if co2 is a feather in the balance of the environment. The thing that makes temps drop 3 degrees at the end of each warming period is a lead weight that slams into the earth balance. | we can argue all day long, but in the end, does it matter? in the end we could just leave it as it is and wait for our doom (or not) but we could change something, if it's not the right thing who cares? going green is not a bad thing at all, it doesnt hurt you or me, but not changing our life style COULD hurt us a lot lot more!
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September 9th, 2008, 10:33 AM
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Guess what... if we change things too damn fast, world economies will crumble from the stress.... the same will happen if we do that slow, thanks to the rising energy costs.
Give the world 5-10 years to migrate to nuclear and hydrogen and solar power.
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September 9th, 2008, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Creatures we can argue all day long, but in the end, does it matter? in the end we could just leave it as it is and wait for our doom (or not) but we could change something, if it's not the right thing who cares? going green is not a bad thing at all, it doesnt hurt you or me, but not changing our life style COULD hurt us a lot lot more!
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actually it does hurt. you said it in another thread. you want government to control industry. (this is potential for disaster)
yeah the decision to move closer to work or ride your bike is harmless. Government mandating I move out of my house and move closer to work is horrific. especially if i am right about AGW. | |
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September 9th, 2008, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Epidemic actually it does hurt. you said it in another thread. you want government to control industry. (this is potential for disaster)
yeah the decision to move closer to work or ride your bike is harmless. Government mandating I move out of my house and move closer to work is horrific. especially if i am right about AGW. | as i said in the other thread it's not about you and me, it's about the industry, the government has to force them into a greener way. i don't see why this will end in a disaster, if the whole industry at once has to change, cars carbon free, more filters, Catalytic converter etc... every little step brings us the a cleaner earth, and it really has to be done, not for our sakes but the sakes of our children etc.
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September 9th, 2008, 11:51 AM
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catalytic converters require richer fuel mixture to work as such it creates more co2 due to waste. | |
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September 9th, 2008, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Epidemic catalytic converters require richer fuel mixture to work as such it creates more co2 due to waste. | ah well then scratch that from the list ;p
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September 9th, 2008, 12:15 PM
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Last edited by Epidemic : September 9th, 2008 at 12:23 PM.
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September 9th, 2008, 12:19 PM
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September 9th, 2008, 12:23 PM
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Joko,
yep like ethanol under current production techniques. | |
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September 9th, 2008, 12:39 PM
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well to be precise it solved the problem they had, that catalytic converters produce more co2 than without wasn't the issue back then^^
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