An Analysis of Obama/McBain Debate.

[MegalosSkylaki]

Round One. McCain(M) and Obama(O) just warmed up. Tie.

Round Two. M. coming out stronger. O smells scripted. Score for M.

Round Three O starts to take the lead..both Candidates lie about records,
but M has longer record to lie about. Score for O.

Round Four Both M O seem to cling to ropes....start to evade Questions...divert attention...Tie.

Round Five M goes to platitudes..doesn't smell right. O falls back on usual
lines..doesn't show any new stuff. Tie.

Round Six M opens with rap on BUSH..want's not to smell like him. How
does O capitalize on this? Fails to use the opening..but wait --Ah! O comes back swinging..Hits body on borrowing. Strong round for for O. O takes the lead.

Round Seven M comes back swinging. Hits hard to the snout. O parries. Small quick raps to the head of M. M shows composure, despite all. Comes back with hard punches..lands several. Score for M.


DOOOOG goes to Frig.

[MegalosSkylaki]

Round Eight. O opens with fancy moves. Shows some new stuff...but goes over M head..and the Crowd rumbles...M. takes advantage of drop of guard...
M hits hard to body.. hits again...O on the ropes. Big round for M.

[MegalosSkylaki]

objects to my sniffing the air..

DOOG goes to Fire Hydrant..
so coverage is over..for now.

[chipbgt]

Obama was better at the beginning with economics while McCain was better at the end with foreign policy. I don't think either really won...the other debates might get a little more heated and we will see the candidates true reactions to the stress.

I watched most of it on CNN where they had a system to monitor the opinion of dems reps and indies. It was humorous to see the rep one shoot up when McCain spoke and the dem one shoot up when Obama spoke. No real suprise; people just don't like the other guy no matter what they say.

[MegalosSkylaki]

OK, the DOOG didn't fininsh the round by round...gave nose a rest...threw up back paws....relaxed Tail..

So here's the "wrap up".

They way I sniff it is that both Candidates had their respective problem to solve.

Look at it this way:

Two Salepersons approach the same Client to get them to buy something.

One Seller is very big and hulking.
The other is small and short.

Each has a problem to solve: the Big Guy has to allay fears that very big people sometimes inspire..the small Guy has to show his stature. So "closing the deal" means different strategies for problems for either salesman --or here, candidate.

Now Obama had to show that he could be trusted to govern the Country as a relatively inexperienced newcomer.

McCain had to show --well let's face --that he is not McBush.

Who solved their "problem" better in order to close the deal ??

When viewed in this perspective, and without weighing who I agreed with,
I gotta say that Obama showed that he was a quick study and not someone to fear in the White House. This helped him.

McCain, however, and using his years in office-- which could have worked as a disadvantage -- was able to establish his independent, non-Bushwacked, persona.
This was big, considering he came in as "the tired old man" , he was able to show he could run with the young ones.

Advantage: McCain.

MegalosSkylaki

[mad1]

Round 1, advantage McCain. McCain hit hard on Obama's lack of experience while Obama tried to make McCain out to be another Bush, not too suprising there. What did suprise was Obama's attempts to interrupt McCain's speaking. With his education did he miss the part on speaking etiquette.

[M_Six]

I saw two people who added so much spin to the other guy's voting record and past comments that the bullshit was really knee-deep. Neither would bring up the real truths.

Let's face it, Afghanistan has never been tamed and will never be tamed. It's a hopeless, useless country where the primary source of income is opium. Get in there, kick the Taliban's ass, find and kill OBL, and get the f**k out. Let them go back to killing each other and growing their opium. Keep an eye on them and if they get the slightest bit arrogant, bomb them back to the stone age (which isn't very far) and be done with them again.

The surge in Iraq was incidental to the current (and relative) peacefulness there. The rise of the Sons of Iraq and the cease-fire declared by al-Sadr are largely responsible. If al-Sadr decides tomorrow to lift the cease-fire and start the killing again, it will all go back to where it was before the surge. I'd like nothing more than to see Iraq become another Kuwait. But if it happens, it will have to be the Iraqis themselves who do it. If they want to keep killing each other, there's nothing we can do about it.

Neither Obama or McCain have a f**king clue what to do about this economic mess. Hell, NO ONE DOES. The best they can do is try to limit the damage and pray for the best. Maybe we won't see a depression after all, but don't bet the house on it.

What I heard from McCain about taxes and the future is an echo of Bushinomics, which clearly haven't worked. On the other hand, I'm not happy about forking over my hard earned money so truly stupid people can go to college. It's time like these when we really need a middle-of-the-road candidate.

So for me it all boils down to one simple, inescapable fact. McCain will be the oldest President ever elected to a first term and his running mate is a hockey mom with no more qualifications to be President than any other hockey mom. She is clearly in way, way over her head and will be a serious threat to the security of this country should she, god forbid, find herself running it. And picking her to be the VP clearly shows very poor judgment on McCain's part. Hell, if he had picked Tom Ridge, I'd have been impressed and I'd have figured the election to be a toss up at this point. But he tried a bold, yet idiotic move and lost any shred of confidence I had in him.

Case closed, my vote goes to Obama.

[KarmaKiller]

I thought it was pretty well rounded. They both did better then what I was expecting...

[tony_j15]

Tony watched for the first 10 minutes to work on McCain impression. Turns off TV and works on whistling his "s" sounds and never raising his arms past his shoulders. Score for comedy

[Chuckiechan]

I plugged in to a focus group of voters under 40 and one of the things they didn't like about Mc Cain was him talking about "historical things". One person made the comment "I don't care about GKP", to murmurs of agreement in the audience.

So in short, an issue was revealed to me that I never really thought about, and that is a lot of younger people have no clue of history, and see world events as "new events" every day. The know there is such a thing as history, but they feel they are insulated from world events like getting killed in your favorite game, or watching a real death on U Tube.

So I can see the generational separation between those who have led us through the cold (and hot) wars, and people who have been raised to be "risk adverse", and oblivious.

I liked the format, and the moderator was great. I expected a normal sleepy predictable debate. Obama didn't lose anything, so I'd call it a draw.

Note: I bent over and picked up a dime today. How many of you would have done that?