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    Biden does it again

    Political Radar: Biden to Supporters: "Gird Your Loins", For the Next President "It's Like Cleaning Augean Stables"

    ABC News' Matthew Jaffe Reports: Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., on Sunday guaranteed that if elected, Sen. Barack Obama., D-Ill., will be tested by an international crisis within his first six months in power and he will need supporters to stand by him as he makes tough, and possibly unpopular, decisions.

    "Mark my words," the Democratic vice presidential nominee warned at the second of his two Seattle fundraisers Sunday. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year-old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy."

    "I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate," Biden said to Emerald City supporters, mentioning the Middle East and Russia as possibilities. "And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you - not financially to help him - we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him. Because it's not gonna be apparent initially, it's not gonna be apparent that we're right."

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    Why would someone want to elect a man that is going to provoke international crisis? Open mouth, insert foot.
    That is almost as good as saying that it is "patriotic" to pay higher taxes.
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    Why would anybody elect someone who thinks we can WIN in Iraq or Afghanistan ???? Ask the Russians and Iranians about winning over there. Fool me once.......

    Osama Bin Laden.......Can you hear me NOW.?????? Hell yes he can still hear. Nuf said
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    No surprise, Biden is good at inserting his foot in his mouth. Obama is probably questioning why he choose Biden. If Obama is elected we will have one thing that is guaranteed, Biden's clueless comments!

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    No surprise that the gaffe police have concluded (with no argumentation, logic, or facts) that Biden has said something wrong.

    No surprise, either, that the TIMO brown shirts jump on board.
    Never send to know for whom the bell tolls . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pexster View Post
    No surprise that the gaffe police have concluded (with no argumentation, logic, or facts) that Biden has said something wrong.

    No surprise, either, that the TIMO brown shirts jump on board.
    Whats there to argue, its on tape? Biden should have realized sooner that the media was in the crowd!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pexster View Post
    No surprise that the gaffe police have concluded (with no argumentation, logic, or facts) that Biden has said something wrong.

    No surprise, either, that the TIMO brown shirts jump on board.
    And it's no surprise that you only see (or hear) what you want to see (or hear).

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    Obama will be tested because he is seen as weak. He want to turn America into Europe - a weak, failed, Socialist state.
    Johnathon Gruber is the most honest spokesman for the Democrat party.

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    Bingo, you started this thread. Yet you provided no commentary or analysis or opinion. As for only hearing what I want to hear or seeing what I want to see, let me tell you -- I have no desire to see the kinds of absolute hate-filled crap a whole slew of TIMOers have been posting the last few days. It's downright scary that people who are self-labelled patriots are talking revolution. Why? Because someone who has different policy positions than they do might be elected President.

    Chuck, that "Socialist" crap is old. I really thought that anyone with half a brain would STFU with that stuff after Paulson and Bush rolled out their plan. But a lot of you not only lack logic, you lack any sense of shame for your hypocrisy.
    Never send to know for whom the bell tolls . . .

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    Kennedy's weakness led Khrushchev to believe he could get missiles into Cuba, and if push came to shove, he could get concessions elsewhere in the world from other US missile forces in exchange for removing them.

    He did and he did. The press spun it as a win for the USA only because a nuclear war didn't start.

    It was a bonehead stunt precipitated by Kennedy's weakness in giving our adversaries "the olive branch of friendship" so they could thrash us with it.
    Johnathon Gruber is the most honest spokesman for the Democrat party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mad1 View Post
    No surprise, Biden is good at inserting his foot in his mouth. Obama is probably questioning why he choose Biden. If Obama is elected we will have one thing that is guaranteed, Biden's clueless comments!
    I seriously doubt that Obama is going through a fraction as much of buyer's remorse as McCain is. I think Obama completely understood in advance what he was getting into as Biden has a clear history that anyone can look up. But on the other hand, I don't think McCain really thought out the soccer mom factor.

    Clearly he (McCain) was pandering to both the Christian right and women's vote when he chose Palin.

    /al

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    Clearly he (McCain) was pandering to both the Christian right and women's vote when he chose Palin.
    An what is wrong with those people?
    Johnathon Gruber is the most honest spokesman for the Democrat party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuckiechan View Post
    An what is wrong with those people?
    Nothing is wrong with those people. What is wrong for McCain, was that the amount he picked up with his poorly chosen VP did not offset the amount he lost with it.
    Last edited by Gomer; October 21st, 2008 at 10:32 AM.

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    If Obama gets in Iran will test him in the Straight of Hormuz. This has happened recently and will be escalated once Obama takes office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pexster View Post
    Bingo, you started this thread. Yet you provided no commentary or analysis or opinion. As for only hearing what I want to hear or seeing what I want to see, let me tell you -- I have no desire to see the kinds of absolute hate-filled crap a whole slew of TIMOers have been posting the last few days. It's downright scary that people who are self-labelled patriots are talking revolution. Why? Because someone who has different policy positions than they do might be elected President.
    Why should I provide "commentary or analysis or opinion"? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what Joe the Senator meant by his statement: Obama hasn't proven to anyone that he can lead a country - in good times or bad - and that an international crisis that will test him will somehow prove that he's capable of handling it. Color me silly, but I want a guy in there who has already been a proven leader...not someone who has to prove it. No one is questioning McCain's ability to lead in a crisis, but Obama's running mate is clearly unconvinced of his potential as a leader.

    He's also stating that the rest of the world - our enemies - perceive Obama as weak and easy to take advantage of. The inmates will be running the prison.

    I'm sure you'll find another way to spin it - that this is somehow a positive statement - but that just shows your true colors, your myopia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Real Bingo View Post
    Why should I provide "commentary or analysis or opinion"? It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what Joe the Senator meant by his statement: Obama hasn't proven to anyone that he can lead a country - in good times or bad - and that an international crisis that will test him will somehow prove that he's capable of handling it. Color me silly, but I want a guy in there who has already been a proven leader...not someone who has to prove it. No one is questioning McCain's ability to lead in a crisis, but Obama's running mate is already questioning his own.
    And if something were to happen to McCain, which is not unlikely, you think Sarah Palin would be better? She can't even lead a press conference or handle an interview let alone run a country!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gomer View Post
    And if something were to happen to McCain, which is not unlikely, you think Sarah Palin would be better? She can't even lead a press conference or handle an interview let alone run a country!
    I agree, but you're not voting on the odds of a president dying while in office. It's like a horse race...sure, the horse may break his leg, but your bet isn't influenced by that possibility.

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    I am questioning McCain's ability to lead in a crisis. The guy is totally unstable. If you don't believe that, you haven't been paying attention. He has been given a free pass on his leadership and foreign policy credentials. A good jaw grinding doesn't equate with wisdom or leadership; it only leads to money spent at the dentist.
    Never send to know for whom the bell tolls . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pexster View Post
    I am questioning McCain's ability to lead in a crisis. The guy is totally unstable. If you don't believe that, you haven't been paying attention. He has been given a free pass on his leadership and foreign policy credentials. A good jaw grinding doesn't equate with wisdom or leadership; it only leads to money spent at the dentist.
    If there's one thing I've learned, it's you don't fuck around with the crazy dude.

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    LOL, well that's a concept. Elect the crazy dude and the rest of the world will back off!
    Never send to know for whom the bell tolls . . .

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