November 7th, 2008, 12:59 PM #1
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Moderates to Blame for GOP Losses, Conservative Leader Says
Yeah, that's the ticket:(CNN)-- A conservative leader Friday laid the Republican Party's poor showing at the polls at the feet of moderates who, he argues, led the party away from its core principles. Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council says the GOP must return to conservative principles.
Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council told CNN that conservatives need to take back control of the GOP if the party is to return to its winning ways.
"Moderates never beat conservatives. We've seen that in past elections," he said.
Rejecting suggestions that the conservative movement was viewed as being out of touch with the electorate, Perkins says the Republican Party needs to go back to basics.
"It's a return to fundamental conservative principles that Ronald Reagan showed work and that people can be attracted to," Perkins said.
Pointing to measures in California, Florida and Arizona barring same-sex marriage that passed Tuesday, Perkins said President-elect Barack Obama's election did not mean the country had embraced liberal social views.
"There was clearly no mandate to shift the country to the left on social issues," Perkins said. "What Tuesday was, was a fact that people wanted change, and it's a rejection of a moderate view."
Go for it, Tony. Maybe you can make it forty years in the wilderness if you really try.I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. --J.S. Mill
November 7th, 2008, 01:21 PM #2
Hey, there's talk of Palin running in 2012. Good. Lose again!
November 8th, 2008, 02:10 AM #3
If the GOP doesn't learn to court minorities they are doomed to Minority status. There is no way the party can continue on as a "white man's party". It is unsustainable and an obsolete position. Finding and nurturing conservative view points in other ethnic and social classes is the only way to ensure future victories.
Reagan won not only on conservative positions, but he appealed to a wide spectrum of middle of the road, everyday working Americans. His victory was built on being American first and the tent was huge. His message was less government, less taxes, and more working together to build a safer stronger country for our children and grandchildren.
We "conservatives" have to work harder at educating others on the core principals of successful governance. It starts with family values first and then grows into a broader more active civic participation and duty. True teaching begins in the home and continues in our schools, churches, etc. The racial divisions of our country in the past have to be reconciled and put into the past where they belong. I hope that this election has finally began to lead us down that road.
November 8th, 2008, 01:24 PM #4
Before you write off the conservatives, better polish off your crystal ball and see what "the liberals" plan to do with the economy.
The winning percentage of Obama's margin came from people who were promised something for nothing. Welfare in the form of tax refunds, and tax only on "the other guy".
Now he is going to say "just kidding"?
He and the media can blame Bush for a year, maybe. But not four. Eventually, if he enacts his "tax the rich plan", and increases capital gains, this economy is dead in the water, and he's a gonner.
$1000 a year is not enough to make up for the higher prices, and unemployment."The world burns while Obama Tweets."
November 8th, 2008, 02:05 PM #5
Once again, you confuse cause and effect. Maybe you haven't noticed, but "this economy is dead in the water" RIGHT NOW!
When it begins to recover, there is absolutely no credible reason to think it cannot support the tax rate structure of the '90s. To believe or claim otherwise is either dishonest or foolish.Never send to know for whom the bell tolls . . .
November 8th, 2008, 02:27 PM #6
"The evil that men do lives after them, the good if oft interred with their bones"http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOtab0BKOGY
The Nation which forgets it's defenders will itself be forgotten
You cannot make peace with dictators. You have to destroy them–wipe them out!
November 8th, 2008, 03:31 PM #7
I read Theo's title and I thought it was something from The Onion,
"Electorate to Blame for McCain's Loss"
25 years ago, Ronald Reagan sold the country conservatism, like it was soap. The voters bought his soap. It was a tribute to Reagan's salesman skills. Unfortunately, that soap didn't work then. His theory that cutting taxes brings in more revenue was proved false by higher deficits. Cutting social programs to give the poor more incentives to work made more hungry poor people.
Bush's cutting taxes on the wealthy enriched rich people while doing nothing for anyone else.
Since then, right-wing think tanks have been spreading notions of conservatism as if it was a sacred religion.
Mr. McCain was selling the same soap -- the same soap the Republican old guard has sold for decades -- tax cuts for the wealthy, reduced government regulation and drilling out of an energy crisis.
Unfortunately for Mr. McCain was that it required us to forget that we used this conservative soap for the last eight years and we witnessed how badly it cleans.
What the Obama election is, is a re-alignment no different than the re-alignment that FDR ushered in that lasted four decades. FDR's liberal programs were accepted as mainstream by every Republican president until Reagan was elected.
Last edited by MTAtech; November 8th, 2008 at 03:38 PM.Conservatives: "If the facts disagree with our opinion, ignore the facts -- or at least misrepresent them."
November 8th, 2008, 04:02 PM #8We ALREADY have higher prices and unemployment., I could see blaming the Democrats if they had a filibuster proof majority, but they don't. The Economy is only going to get worse and worse. The ramifications of the Bush legacy will go on for YEARS.
Bush? It's the committee's headed by Democrats that caused the problems in the housing market that let to the meltdown, starting with Barney Frank & Co.
The reason GM doesn't want to declare bankruptcy, is the judge has the power to rewrite union contracts, which is why the Dem's will bail them out on our dime rather than have the judge restructure the company.
Last edited by Chuckiechan; November 8th, 2008 at 04:05 PM."The world burns while Obama Tweets."
November 8th, 2008, 05:45 PM #9Never send to know for whom the bell tolls . . .
November 8th, 2008, 06:40 PM #10
Unfortunately for Mr. McCain was that it required us to forget that we used this conservative soap for the last eight years and we witnessed how badly it cleans.Good job, friend-of-friends!
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November 8th, 2008, 07:43 PM #11
^^ It just shows that Bush League Soap was not the right product for the times. The only thing Bush has prepared was the Patriot Act. That was ready to go. Anything else was a big, "DUDH!!!"...as in DUDH BE U!
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