Assault Weapon Ban.

Epidemic · February 26th, 2009, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Theophylact

Well, according to the article they were mostly AK-47s. You're the armaments guru; you tell me. But I would think so:

Problem is that the Media makes no distinction between fully automatic. My guess is that these weapons were fully automatic because if you are a criminal with huge financial resources there would be no need to buy semi-automatic ak-47's. non assault rifles aka Semi - automatic ak-47's would not have given the drug cartels a substantial advantage over the police.

If the were fully automatic then these are also already heavily regulated and would not be affected by assault weapon ban in the least.

secondly from assault weapon ban number 1 we grandfathered all product already manufactured just artificially raising price but not limiting access.

Shipuuden · February 26th, 2009, 12:21 PM

AK-47's are trash, if your going to buy weapons as a cartel I would go with the FN Scar in .308.

Creatures · February 26th, 2009, 12:41 PM

AK are trash? cheap and deadly (and sturdy as hell)
afaik as long as it hits the target with singleshot no need to go full automatic (although full automatic is pretty accurate at short distances (up to 20 meters)

Creatures

Gomer · February 26th, 2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Real Bingo

Hey, I thought they weren't coming after our guns? Another lie from these pricks.

Just like that war on drugs...that's hugely successful. Why are such morons in such important positions in this country?

You crack me up... out of one side of your mouth you say, "look at all these promises, hahaha he sure did pull the wool over your eyes!" Out of the other side you say, "look at all these promises, OMG HE'S ACTUALLY DOING IT!"

Funny stuff.

Epidemic · February 26th, 2009, 02:36 PM

Ak 47 is a fine weapon. Reliable (accurate for all reasonable battle distances 100 yards.)

Epidemic · February 26th, 2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Gomer

You crack me up... out of one side of your mouth you say, "look at all these promises, hahaha he sure did pull the wool over your eyes!" Out of the other side you say, "look at all these promises, OMG HE'S ACTUALLY DOING IT!"

Funny stuff.

You crack me up. you support and defend his lies.

I am not even sure what you are saying... he did not promise to take guns (in fact quite the opposite.) Promises not kept is another legitimate bitch.

Both of the reflect poorly on him.

Gomer · February 26th, 2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Epidemic

You crack me up. you support and defend his lies.

I am not even sure what you are saying... he did not promise to take guns (in fact quite the opposite.) Promises not kept is another legitimate bitch.

Both of the reflect poorly on him.

Lies? WHERE?

In fact, it's right here in the OP's article:

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Wednesday Attorney General Eric Holder said that the Obama administration will seek to reinstitute the assault weapons ban which expired in 2004 during the Bush administration.

"As President Obama indicated during the campaign, there are just a few gun-related changes that we would like to make, and among them would be to reinstitute the ban on the sale of assault weapons," Holder told reporters.

no1_vern · February 26th, 2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Shipuuden

AK-47's are trash, if your going to buy weapons as a cartel I would go with the FN Scar in .308.
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I would LOVE a FN Scar, but for each FN Scar, I could afford 10(or more) AK-47s.

I would lay money on the 10 men each carrying an AK47 winning a firefight over one man carrying a Scar anyday.

Epidemic · February 26th, 2009, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by P Barak Obama

During a February 15, 2008 press conference, Obama stated, "I think there is an individual right to bear arms, but it's subject to commonsense regulation

I am sorry when you are right you are right.

I just did not know drive by beyonettings were on the rise??? Nor did I know that pistol grips were increasing the level of crime in America. I guess these are just common sense regulations.

I could defend the magazine size argument (although I disagree with it as well because most crimes do not involve hundreds of rounds so it is a non problem being legislated away from my freedom.)

Gomer · February 26th, 2009, 03:21 PM

From his campaign platform statement:

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Allow Effective Gun-Tracing: When law enforcement agencies operate in concert at the federal, state, and local levels, the chances of solving a crime increases. Since 2003, the Tiahrt Amendment has restricted the ability of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) to share gun trace information with members of state and local law enforcement. The ATF has a wide-ranging database of gun information, yet Washington has threatened police officers with time in prison for attempting to access it. As president, Barack Obama would repeal the Tiahrt Amendment and give police officers across the nation the tools they need to solve gun crimes and fight the illegal arms trade. Obama also favors commonsense measures that respect the Second Amendment rights of gun owners, while keeping guns away from children and from criminals who shouldn’t have them. He supports closing the gun show loophole and making guns in this country childproof. He also supports making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on
foreign battlefields and not on our streets.

So where are the lies again?