Palin Resigning as Governor

EXreaction · July 4th, 2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Chuckiechan

She is very popular with what I call the "normal" middle class - not the low-end biatches that claim to represent "America's women". I'm not willing to write her off just yet.

She's popular? Maybe just with the people you hang out with...

The only things I've ever heard anyone say about her in person is that they think she was the reason McCain failed election. Hell, there were a few I knew who were thinking of voting for Obama just because of Palin.

IMO, Palin was one of the best things to happen to the current "Conservative" party. Maybe she will tear the whole party down if she fights hard enough for the next presidential election. Best yet would be to get a real conservative going for president once, someone that gets equal opportunity with the media.

Pexster · July 4th, 2009, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by cyphen

Exactly, mad... "tolerant" liberals must deride her because she's a threat. if she weren't a threat, they'd ignore her.

She's a rallying point for getting government under control. Smaller government, tax-friendly to its citizens and businesses.

She's a threat to anyone who wants a larger government controlling more and more, and taxing more and more from its people. She's a threat to those who seek massive power from the government. With a full 40% of the country self-identifying as conservative, versus around 25% self-identifying as liberal, she's a threat to liberal democrats, and their designs on this nation and our lives. That's why they must deride her, and those who support her.

She is a threat to intelligent political discourse. No more than that. No, wait . . . she may also be a threat to the very existence of the GOP as a serious force.

Get this through your skull. Sarah Palin is not a serious politician. She is ill-informed, ignorant, and clearly not ready for any position of responsibility.

Finally, as I have pointed out often here, I have no quarrel with serious, intelligent conservatives. There is much in traditional conservatism that I can embrace. And I have also stated that this country needs a serious opposition party. (Although I may have to amend that, as the Democratic Party seems quite capable of opposing itself!)

cyphen · July 4th, 2009, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pexster

She is a threat to intelligent political discourse. No more than that.

Intelligent political discourse like this?

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Originally Posted by Pexster

She's a rallying point for the uneducated, the fanatics, and the tinfoil hat crowd.
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Fact is, she is so f___ing ignorant that she can't even handle an interview with Katie Couric

Toadman · July 4th, 2009, 04:21 PM

washingtonpost.com

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More fundamental is the question of whether she can break out beyond that core of supporters. No Republican can win the nomination if they are opposed by the cultural conservatives in the GOP base, but that base alone is usually not enough to win the nomination. It is far from enough to win the White House. Romney and Pawlenty among other prospective GOP nominees have the capacity to build a larger coalition.

Pexster · July 4th, 2009, 04:22 PM

cyphen, your post points out a big difference between our views. You are OK with a "regular person" or "regular mom" becoming the President of the United States of America. I am not. I want an extraordinary person.

And this?

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Obama was more clueless than any of the other 3, and it's showing.

No point in continuing this.

Good luck with your 2012 candidate.

EXreaction · July 4th, 2009, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cyphen

And Ex, you're way wrong. It may be that nobody you know liked her - and probably because they parroted the media that didn't like her - of MoveOn, or HuffPo, or DKos... Or maybe they got their news from Jon Stewart, of all places. Either way, you're wrong about her effect on McCain's campaign. he was totally floundering in the polls. Adding her to the ticket completely revitalized his chances. And i'm guessing that anybody who said they were voting for Obama just because of Palin - was already voting for Obama anyway. More people showed up to see and hear her than McCain, and often she rivaled or surpassed Obama's crowds. The problem was, "beltway" establishment republican politicians didn't like her, and liberals detested and mocked her. What's a regular mom to do?

Very few of the people I know/talk to agree with the same things I do. They all watch the same BS on Fox too and were all going to vote for McSame the entire time, but they started questioning a lot of things once that retard Palin was selected for VP.

A tip, you really make yourself look like an idiot when you go off like that. Guessing that everyone I talk to is a Democrat and agrees with what you think I agree with when you don't even seem to have the slightest clue of what I agree with.

MTAtech · July 5th, 2009, 12:19 AM

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NBC/WSJ (.pdf) poll conducted about a month ago (Dec 08) asked for favorability ratings on the four Presidential contenders and found Palin stuck in neutral, at 35/45 positive/negative in December as opposed to 39/48 in late October, with 30 percent still holding a strongly negative view of her. link

RayH · July 5th, 2009, 02:18 AM

^^Only 30%?

Toadman · July 5th, 2009, 05:04 AM

Amazing how some consider a Moose-stew-eating, basketball-playing hockey mom from Wasilla a valid threat.

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cyphen, your post points out a big difference between our views. You are OK with a "regular person" or "regular mom" becoming the President of the United States of America. I am not. I want an extraordinary person.

You'll need to define "extraordinary" for the joe six-packs. Sorry they vote, I know it sucks. Do you mean a "career" politician or a public servant as designed?

MTAtech · July 5th, 2009, 08:16 AM

From my house I can see that she is in trouble.