Thirty-eight forged or fraudulent ballots have been thrown out, according to records at the Rensselaer County Board of Elections in Troy, N.Y. Enough votes, an election official admits, to likely have tipped the November election to the Democrats.
"They tried to steal an election," says Bob Mirch, the majority leader of the Rensselaer County legislature who suspected voter fraud and started the investigation after being alerted to a large number of absentee ballot application requests that were noticed by the Republican Board of Elections commissioner.
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Yeah, because 38 votes are substansial in the face of the massive voter fraud that was perpetuated in Florida in the 2000 Presidential election. Don't see ya screaming about that one...
Move along, nothing to see here...
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Massive voter fraud in 2000! lol! If by that you mean Gore trying to recount votes in heavily democrat areas and have them applied throughout all districts, then yes, I agree about the attempted voter fraud. If you mean the Gore trying to tell people that the ballots were confusing, and that marking it for Bush actually meant a mark for Gore, again, i agree. If you mean the attempt to discount the votes of the overseas military men and women, then yes, i agree.
Of course, all of that was leftist voter fraud and manipulation.
Then of course, there's ACORN, there's the congressional stolen vote on immigration, there's franken having it both ways regarding a recount... there's the flooding of offices with fraudulent registrations, there's the repeated attempts to let felons and illegal immigrants vote by the left...
Don't see YOU say a peep about THAT!
And then when it's shown that an election was stolen by someone on your side... "Nothing to see here!"
No, I said it in regards to the story posted by the OP.
Funny that you automatically class me as one of "them", ie. anyone you don't agree with. Unlike you, I have not sold my soul to a political party or idealism.
As for your asserations about there not being any voter fraud in the 2000 election, here is the government report about the fraud perpetuated in 2000 that handed GWB the election: Main
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During the hearings, the Commission received testimony from more than 100 witnesses, including the governor, the secretary of state, the attorney general, a representative of DBT Online (the company involved in state-sponsored removal of felons from Florida’s voter registration lists), the director of the Florida Division of Elections, the general counsel of the Florida Elections Commission, and the co-chairperson and executive director of the Select Task Force on Election Procedures, Standards and Technology established by the governor. Additional testimony was also heard from current and former Florida state and county officials, including county supervisors of elections, county commission officials, and law enforcement personnel as well as experts on election reform issues, election laws and procedures, and voting rights. Registered Florida voters also testified on the obstacles they encountered when attempting to participate in the November election. Both hearings included an open session in which the public was invited to testify about election procedures or personal voting experiences in the November election.
The report generated by the hearings, Voting Irregularities in Florida During the 2000 Presidential Election, concludes that many eligible Florida voters were, in fact, denied their right to vote, with the disenfranchisement disproportionately affecting African Americans. The report also contains recommendations, stressing that any electoral reform must include clear guidance, responsibility and accountability measures that include effective monitoring, and adequate resources to ensure meaningful implementation of these recommendations.
Yes, there are the ACORN reports, and those people should be punished if found guilty of fraud. That people went "undercover" as pimps/prostitutes to gather info is a questionable tactic in my mind, since prostitution is also illegal.
The very fact that you believe Bush stole the election tells me enough about you so as to count you among "them" - if that's the terminology you wish to use. Aside from that, i've seen enough of your posts to have a good idea of your affiliations or beliefs.
Your earlier dismissal of democrat fraud by pointing to what you think is republican fraud is indicative as well. If you were to treat it even handedly, you would certainly see the conservative side of the argument as well, in that Gore pushed for unfair advantages, and tried to disenfranchise 3000 military voters.
Also, that is and has been a tactic of stings and investigative journalism for a long time. The people that did it didn't actually engage in prostitution, so they didn't break the law. They posed as prostitute and pimp, and ACORN in many instances offered their services (government funded services) to help them cover it up. it's not exactly entrapment! I mean, for God's sake, who wouldn't tell them to go take a hike, or stop engaging in illegal activity? Apparently, ACORN wouldn't. They encouraged it, and tried to help them hide it Even when they talked about importing children as sex slaves, ACORN told them how they could write them off on their taxes, and told them about ways to sneak them into the country illegally.
And you think you're some "voice of moderation" or "independent thinker?" Really?
Two Presidential Elections strongly appear to have been "stolen" in te last Century : Kennedy over Nixon in 1960 which was decided by Illinois where Richard Daley's Chicago machine created enough phoney votes to capture the State and its Electoral votes; the 2000 "win" of GW Bush over Gore where I strongly suspect the ambiguous and defective ballots were purposely designed that way to allow the Jeb Bush Elction Board to decide to count them or not.
Let's move on; the last Election was a clear landslide.
Now what does astound me is that Ms. Dunn calls Fox News biased --which it is --yet calls NBC News as objective or such.
Now as for the matter of "controling the media"[Seebelow]..well all is fair [right! ], especially when Big Business controls the media and the media can decide elections.
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