California Part Time Legislature Measure to go out for Signatures

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BTW, Cali usually has a republican governor because usually the democrat is not a moderate, it's a dingleberry democrat running against a moderate republican.

[Chuckiechan]

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you want someone only thinking about that stuff part time, or as a "side job"? How does that concept not trivialize the legislature?

I think California is even worse off the Michigan. At least they aren't flooded with illegals.

The reason we have Republican governors is that it is a statewide ballot. Each of the House and state Senate districts are carefully drawn to keep the incumbent in place so as to not "upset the apple cart". Republican incumbents are content to keep their jobs and go along with this since if they don't go along, the are "drawn out of their districts" via gerrymandering.

The vote for Gov is statewide, thus everyone's vote goes for their candidate. California's inhabitants, like the US is actually fairly middle of the road politically, but run by a far left house and senate. Rejection of liberal governors is proof positive that the local statehouse races are "stacked".

There is precious few things we can do other than go directly at the legislative members themselves.

[surreal]

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California's inhabitants, like the US is actually fairly middle of the road politically, but run by a far left house and senate. Rejection of liberal governors is proof positive that the local statehouse races are "stacked".

That's because cities are more liberal than suburbs in general. I disagree that rejection of a liberal governor proves anything other than the opponent was too liberal and the republican was moderate enough... I lived out there and voted in every election for more than 25 years Chuck
A little off the topic (OK much off) is that in other states there is nothing that comes in the mail from the state with information about what will be on ballots during elections- NOTHING- I used to think it was a waste of state money until I saw the other side of it... No wonder people don't vote, they miss it or have no idea what's being voted on, we have an election coming up Tuesday (I'm guessing it's local but I have no real idea) I have gotten noting in the mail, zip. Yes I am registered to vote.

[Chuckiechan]

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I disagree that rejection of a liberal governor proves anything other than the opponent was too liberal and the republican was moderate enough.

It seems the Dem's always get some far left candidate, and they lose. They planned on Newsome from SF, he folded. Jerry Brown, how I liked and used to work for (don't tell anyone - ). I have faith in his honesty, but he has this bug up his butt about "Illegals do jobs Americans won't do".

The don't have a moderate candidate.

At this point, I really don't think it matters. 80% of the state budget is untouchable.

PS I can't imagine not getting a voter's information pamphlet (or book! )

[surreal]

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Originally Posted by Chuckiechan

PS I can't imagine not getting a voter's information pamphlet (or book! )

No kidding.

[thephilosophizer]

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Originally Posted by surreal

BTW, Cali usually has a republican governor because usually the democrat is not a moderate, it's a dingleberry democrat running against a moderate republican.

One of the most insightful reflections on government in california that I've seen in a long time. Mass (originally for cali, in mass now) has the same problem. It's how they (I didn't live here yet to be able to vote) elected Romney.

[thephilosophizer]

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Originally Posted by Chuckiechan

I think California is even worse off the Michigan. At least they aren't flooded with illegals.

The reason we have Republican governors is that it is a statewide ballot. Each of the House and state Senate districts are carefully drawn to keep the incumbent in place so as to not "upset the apple cart". Republican incumbents are content to keep their jobs and go along with this since if they don't go along, the are "drawn out of their districts" via gerrymandering.

The vote for Gov is statewide, thus everyone's vote goes for their candidate. California's inhabitants, like the US is actually fairly middle of the road politically, but run by a far left house and senate. Rejection of liberal governors is proof positive that the local statehouse races are "stacked".

Ok, that's delusional at best. The democrats "fixed" the districts and it keeps republicans from winning? And that's why both senators are democrats, right?
California has mostly democratic reps because the state is left leaning. Not far left mind you, which is why a moderate republic with exceptional public visibility coming off against a devastated incumbent (I don't know if he even counts as an incumbent since he was recalled) is able to win office.

There is no silent majority. The democrats won and the republicans lost.

[Chuckiechan]

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The democrats "fixed" the districts and it keeps republicans from winning? And that's why both senators are democrats, right?

If you are going to call me delusional, the least you can do is read what I wrote. If you can understand it, write it out on paper.

You are making zero sense. You are the one who is delusional, probably chemical based, but temporary.

Try again tomorrow.