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Old November 5th, 2009, 10:47 AM     #21 (permalink)
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Again, no. For one, a prison is a secure location, guards have means for protecting themselves, and the prison population. A maximum security prison does what it is supposed to do. And furthermore I am sure you would agree that the murder of a convicted felon in a maximum security prison in no way equates to that of a innocent. If anything this arrangement further devalues the life of said persons, something that you would seem to support.




Again, this is simply not true. The pepetrators are being punished, and removed from society, telling the families that what they have suffered is something that no one should have to endure.


what punishment? 3 hot meals books and the rest of his life off ya right if thats punishment then I might go do some crime, get put away free cable hot meals and best of all (your going to pay for it,)

but I don't want to move so why don't you just pay my bills and I will be a good member of society, and hey your saving countless lives I promise not to kill anybody
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Old November 5th, 2009, 12:09 PM     #22 (permalink)
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what punishment? 3 hot meals books and the rest of his life off ya right if thats punishment then I might go do some crime, get put away free cable hot meals and best of all (your going to pay for it,)

so by your logic most prisoners are only there because they wanted to live like that?

i seriously doubt that

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Old November 5th, 2009, 01:02 PM     #23 (permalink)
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so by your logic most prisoners are only there because they wanted to live like that?

i seriously doubt that

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I know quite a few people who work in CCC and there are a lot of homeless that committed a crime just so they could goto jail....

They separate the rapist/molesters here in California at a prison called Vacaville...
I would rather work at Pelican Bay then at Vacaville...
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Old November 5th, 2009, 02:19 PM     #24 (permalink)
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so by your logic most prisoners are only there because they wanted to live like that?

i seriously doubt that

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yes thats exactly what I'm saying, most people that murder like the one here,

serial killers, are not exactly social butterflies they live in isolation most of the time,
they for the most part have no friends, they live alone and stay secluded, so how is prison any different than there own life,

so no it's not a punishment,
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:26 PM     #25 (permalink)
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Fifty-six percent of the violent felons convicted in the 75 most populous counties from 1990 through 2002 had a prior conviction, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
Of the offenders with prior felony records, the study found that at the time of the new crime 18 percent were on probation, 12 percent on release pending disposition of a prior case and 7 percent on parole.
The bureau also reported 38 percent had a prior felony conviction and 15 percent had been previously convicted for a violent felony.


don't seem like that 56% of prisaners minded prison, they go right back,

like I said it's not a punishment when your use to it,
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Old November 5th, 2009, 03:31 PM     #26 (permalink)
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I know quite a few people who work in CCC and there are a lot of homeless that committed a crime just so they could goto jail....

Being homeless and going to jail for a misdemeanor is quite different than hustling on the streets and ending up committing felonies that lead to serious time. Anyone who thinks hard prison time is in a walk in the park is delusional IMO.
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I cant really make judgments though cause I have a reason to want child molesters dead...
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Hm, what do you think is an appropriate form of punishment for a child molester and child murderer??

I know what I would do personally if someone molested and murdered one of my kids. If I knew they did it and I could get a hold of them, I'd kill 'em myself (aka: hotblood). I would then fully expect to be put away if/when I was caught. If they were tried and convicted by a judge/jury, prison for life with no parole as I'm against state sponsored death (aka: coldblood).
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your assuming a lot one your assuming he feels remorse to reflect on, most sick people who would do such things only reflect on the feelings the act gave them in the first place, which is not remorse,


so I say fry'em I don't care to pay for his room and board in hopes that some day he might feel remorse,

The expense arguement again Cmptr-Gy-Dv? It is a fact that in this country it is more expensive to put a person to death than it is to keep them in prison for life. With the number of overturned death sentences in the last 20 years, you'd be playing Russian Roulette with an innocents life if you propose to get rid of the appeals process.
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Nick just nailed it. I'd do the same thing, though I know it would be wrong. Life without parole works and why waste any more money?
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Absolutely! I would expect to never see the light of day again.
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