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November 6th, 2009, 03:45 PM
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Says much where his ultimate loyalty lies. And it's surely not to his Oath in defending the Constitution of the United States of America, even when in disagreement with his pending first deployment. What soldier would bank on NOT being deployed to the Middle East? How many of them are excited to go on 3rd-4th tours?
He was punching his ticket, getting a free ride on taxpayer backs. Then when called to earn his training and make a sacrifice he had a change of heart. We know where his heart lies. So does his Imam. Quote: |
Soldiers reported that the gunman shouted "Allahu Akbar!" — an Arabic phrase for "God is great!" — before opening fire, said Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, the base commander. He said officials had not confirmed that Hasan made the comment.
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November 6th, 2009, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Shipuuden I had heard he was afraid he would have to fight against other muslims in iraq/afghanistan when he got deployed | How so? He was an Army psychiatrist.
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November 6th, 2009, 03:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Shipuuden He should be tried and face the firing squad (if they still have it)... | Nope. No firing squad, the Army executes just like ever other Government Agency that can ... lethal injection. |
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November 6th, 2009, 06:09 PM
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| “vicarious or secondary traumatization” SpringerLink - Journal Article Quote: |
"I am a psychologist who used to work at the VA, and I am confident that most civilians have no idea of the horrible things discussed during therapy with patients with PTSD. Most of the things discussed are beyond imagination. Mental health professionals are at high risk for developing psychiatric and substance abuse problems if they have no social support, are isolated, or have any predisposing vulnerability. Therapists working with patients with PTSD are supposed to be in therapy themselves to prevent this, as no human being can listen to these things day after day for years and not be adversely affected. There is actually a term for this - “vicarious or secondary traumatization” - trauma from exposure to others’ trauma. I don’t condone what he did in any way shape or form, but I understand how he may have gotten to the point of snapping. Just a thought…
| Quote: | the cumulative transformative effects upon therapists resulting from empathic engagement with traumatized clients. As part of their work, these clinicians must listen to graphically detailed descriptions of horrific events and bear witness to the psychological (and sometimes physical) aftermath of acts of intense cruelty and/or violence. The cumulative experience of this kind of empathic engagement can have deleterious effects upon clinicians, who may experience physical, emotional, and cognitive symptoms similar to those of their traumatized clients.
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November 6th, 2009, 07:48 PM
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Sympathies to the families 
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November 6th, 2009, 10:00 PM
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This was a pre-planned act of terror by an Islamic extremist.
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November 6th, 2009, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Black*Dragon This was a pre-planned act of terror by an Islamic extremist. | Oh noes he didn't!!!!!
Something the lame media would not acknowledge.
Maj Hasan had a second hand PTSD.
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November 7th, 2009, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Black*Dragon This was a pre-planned act of terror by an Islamic extremist. | Quote:
“When a white guy shoots up a post office, they call that going postal,” said Victor Benjamin II, 30, a former member of the Army. “But when a Muslim does it, they call it jihad.
“Ultimately it was Brother Nidal’s doing, but the command should be held accountable,” Mr. Benjamin said. “G.I.’s are like any equipment in the Army. When it breaks, those who were in charge of keeping it fit should be held responsible for it.”
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November 7th, 2009, 11:35 AM
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Exactly, its the army's fault that maj hasan pulled the trigger at least 100 times killing and wounding HIS fellow soldiers. The army should have known better and all those angry non muslim white men should pay for the wounds he received. It's torture getting shot and being on life support.  
It's not maj hasan's fault he killed all those people, the army broke him. |
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November 7th, 2009, 12:50 PM
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I think the army was handcuffed here. It seems they knew - or should have known - about his disgruntled nature. If it was a white boy, I don't think they'd have a problem either sending him for a psychiatric evaluation/treatment and/or booting him out of the army. Being that he's a Muslim, they had to tread lightly for fear of the ACLU and all the other groups out there. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
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