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We all know why Mexico is so low, to many South of the Border folks are sucking America dry
December 30th, 2009, 03:23 PM #6
NGM Blog Central - The Cost of Care - National Geographic Magazine - NGM.com
Originally Posted by voogru
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December 30th, 2009, 04:42 PM #7
December 30th, 2009, 04:46 PM #8
The source and author is EMBEDDED IN THE FUCKING GRAPHIC. Learn to read, dipshit!
The data is from OECD, all publicly available. Do you see something that is not accurate?
OECD Health Data 2009 - Selected Data
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December 30th, 2009, 05:04 PM #9
OECD brings together the governments of countries committed to democracy and the market economy from around the world to:
Support sustainable economic growth
Raise living standards
Maintain financial stability
Assist other countries' economic development
Contribute to growth in world trade
If the OECD , that you seem to put your faith in, is so damn efficient, why are in the midst of a Depression.They haven't seemed to raise standards of living , Boost employment anywhere, maintained financial stability, and contributed to the growth of world trade ??? The whole financial system is one big mess and isn't going to change anytime soon.
Just a bunch of lines and numbers that really don't mean anything, but use to further someone's point .
Believe what you want. I feel it's totally irrelevant and a waste of band width.
December 30th, 2009, 05:22 PM #10
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pickel, you're irrelevant and a waste of bandwidth!
Good job, friend-of-friends!
December 30th, 2009, 05:35 PM #11
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December 30th, 2009, 06:44 PM #13
I notice how everyone avoids what's abundantly clear from this graph, that the U.S. pays completely out-of-the-ballpark for HC but doesn't get more results.Conservatives: "If the facts disagree with our opinion, ignore the facts -- or at least misrepresent them."
December 30th, 2009, 07:06 PM #14
Didn't you say , at one time, even for the holes in the system, Medicare was considerably more efficient than the ins. cos. ????
PS.. Regardless of the graph... Would you care how much it cost, if your life was on the line ???
Don't think so. Self preservation ALWAYS trumps death.
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December 30th, 2009, 07:10 PM #15
pickel, why be so obtuse? Nobody is suggesting that we emulate the bottom of the list, such as Mexico but Japan spends half of what we do, the average person sees a doctor 12 times a year and they have the highest life-expectancy. Number two is Switzerland and they spend 4/7 of what we spend and have high life-expectancy. What is wrong with emulating those models?Conservatives: "If the facts disagree with our opinion, ignore the facts -- or at least misrepresent them."
December 30th, 2009, 07:33 PM #16
It's only going to get WORSE...Grin and bear it, but don't expect a backward trend of their ways in my 11 year old Grand daughter's lifetime.
Remember what George Clooney said to Tilda Swinton right before she was arrested in the movie Michael Clayton ???
That's the way goes when it comes to health care in the Good Ole USA.
December 30th, 2009, 07:52 PM #17
I am idealistic enough to believe that people in Europe and Asia can't do something that we cannot and we will be able to get a public option.Conservatives: "If the facts disagree with our opinion, ignore the facts -- or at least misrepresent them."
December 30th, 2009, 07:57 PM #18
December 31st, 2009, 02:10 PM #19
Go into an ER - Oakland comes to mind, and see with it's so expensive.
We have more cars, thus more accidents.
We have more crazy & homeless people, thus more people coming in with advanced infections and injuries.
We have more guns, so we have more shootings.
We have a major drug problem, so more overdoses.
We have illegals coming over for AIDS treatments, and treatment for other expensive diseases.
In short, we are expensive because we don't triage to code at the first complication. In the USA it is common to attempt to revive a patient "one more time".
I think your graph is FOS."The world burns while Obama Tweets."
December 31st, 2009, 02:33 PM #20
I would agree that those are all contributing factors to cost, but if I had to baselessly guess (which is how you form your conclusions), I would say that their overall impact on healthcare costs are not substantial in the big picture.
While the U.S. may have "more cars", "more homeless people", "more shootings", "more drugs" and "illegal aliens", you say that as if the other countries listed have no cars, no homelessness, no shootings, no drugs and no immigration issues. Get real! It could also be argued that other countries listed have their own challenges (i.e. alcohol consumption). The number of vehicles per capita in Japan is not much lower than in the United States, but their healthcare costs are a fraction of that in the U.S.
File:Traffic related deaths - Road fatalities per capita.svg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
File:Male Smoking by Country.png - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of countries by alcohol consumption - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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