Thread: Problems with Britain's NHS
February 25th, 2010, 06:26 AM #1
Problems with Britain's NHS
Do they heed a warning for us? FYI, NHS is Britain's National Healthcare System.
Hospital left patients 'sobbing and humiliated'
"It is time that the public were told the truth about the very large number of excess deaths of patients in NHS care and the very large number of avoidable but deadly errors that occur in NHS hospitals every day."The independent inquiry claimed the Mid Staffordshire NHS Trust had become driven by targets and cost-cutting.
This is exactly what people fear about a nationalized healthcare system in the US; when budget gets cut, quality will decrease, people will die. Our health is simply not as elastic as NASA's budget or some public works.Super Gerbil
February 25th, 2010, 06:43 AM #2
The article is talking about problems that were found at one particular hospital; not throughout the whole system.
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February 25th, 2010, 12:01 PM #7
the size argument works most of the time but because medical cost doesn't really change depending of the size of the country, every human being has approx the same amount of medical costs and everyone pays the same amount of taxes and as long as everyone pays for insurance I don't see why size matters in this case, or am i wrong?
February 25th, 2010, 12:38 PM #8
People are frustrated with their hospitals even at the best of times. They are sick, or they are with a family member who is sick. They are tired. They are impatient. Going to the hospital is rarely a relaxing or rewarding experience.
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February 25th, 2010, 02:30 PM #9The trusts received the lowest score in the annual Dr Foster Hospital Guide, which is based on a range of indicators including death rates, infection rates and staffing levels.
However, the Care Quality Commission, which last month gave nine of those trusts 'good' or 'excellent' ratings for their overall performance, said it saw no need to intervene and played down the Dr Foster data.
The worst of the trusts, Basildon and Thurrock, manages a hospital that was last week condemned by inspectors who found “blood-spattered” walls and filthy conditions. Dr Foster said the hospital has the worst patient death rate in the country for the second year in a row.
At least three of the 12 worst-performing trusts have elite 'foundation' status, casting further doubt on Labour’s flagship hospitals’ policy, which has been under attack since appalling standards of care at Mid Staffordshire Hospital were exposed in March.
The true scandal of NHS hospitals failing to comply with basic safety standards is revealed in today's Observer. Research that ranks every general hospital in England against a range of safety measures has named 12 NHS hospital trusts judged to be "significantly underperforming".
Now the new data proves that key safety failings are occurring in 11 more hospital trusts across England. They include Scarborough and North East Yorkshire Healthcare Trust, South London Healthcare Trust, Weston Area Health Trust, Hereford Hospitals Trust, Lewisham Hospital Trust and University Hospitals Coventry and Warwickshire Trust. Eighteen were found to have death rates the same or higher than at Colchester. Ministers want to know why seven in particular have had persistently high death rates over five years.
Today's research exposes systemic failures in large parts of the NHS during the last financial year and finds:
■ 39% of trusts failing to investigate unexpected deaths or cases of serious harm on their wards.
■ At least 209 incidents in which "foreign objects", such as swabs and drill-bits, were left inside patients after surgery.
■ At least 82 cases in which medical staff operated on the wrong part of the patient's body.
It finds that 5,024 people died after being admitted for "low-risk" conditions such as asthma or appendicitis, of whom 848 were under 65. A proportion of those deaths will be linked to safety errors.
February 25th, 2010, 03:44 PM #10
This is a stupid thread. If it were really true that the NHS was failing the British, then why is it still the case that the US has higher rates of preventable death, infant mortality, etc?
No matter how bad you think their system is, ours (in the US) is worse in terms of any and all measurable affects including patient outcome, and cost of service.Reason obeys itself; and ignorance does whatever is dictated to it.
February 25th, 2010, 04:23 PM #11
No matter how bad you think their system is, ours (in the US) is worse in terms of any and all measurable affects including patient outcome, and cost of service.[/QUOTE]
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February 25th, 2010, 05:53 PM #12
You must go to a real shitty hospital Hope you don't get sick ....
February 25th, 2010, 06:00 PM #13
Have you been to Japan's best hospital? Norway's? Canada's? Thailand's? France's?
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