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    For Those of You Who Hate GWB's Tax Cuts, and Love Obmamcare. It's Coming Soon!

     
    Six Months to Go Until<br> The Largest Tax Hikes in History

    First Wave: Expiration of 2001 and 2003 Tax Relief

    Second Wave: Obamacare

    Third Wave: The Alternative Minimum Tax and Employer Tax Hikes

    So mark your day to celebrate as January 1, 2011.
    Obama: The rich have the Federal Reserve and the poor have Harry Reid... LOL. Life really is unfair!

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    I bought a stockpile of rubber chickens. That will help, yes?

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    If the USA is doing that bad Chuck, please feel free to leave.

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    Why are you La Raza?
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    Serves those rich people right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HMMurdock View Post
    If the USA is doing that bad Chuck, please feel free to leave.
    There-in is your problem Murdock . . .

    Chuck and I, have been around long enough to see the writing on the wall. We have lived in the good days of the United States . . . and we want to see those days again for our children and Grand-children. Sadly, that may not happen, unless there are major changes in our Governments spending. How many generations are now saddled with debt by the Government? The economy will improve and hit new highs, maybe not tomorrow, but someday, and sadly, the debt will just continue to increase under current Government thinking and management. (I'm not pointing a finger at Obama or Democrats, as Bush and Republicans are just as guilty of the condition we're in.)

    I got a serious question for you to think about Murdock . . .

    You told Chuckie to feel free to leave . . . have you thought about what would happen if Chuckie, a successful businessman, and all the others like him, that aren't happy with the current situation, picked up and left? Personally, I can't think of anywhere else I'd prefer to live, probably same with Chuckie, but there may come a day where we don't have a choice and other places may look better.


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    Thank you! And a happy Fourth of July to you and your family!
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    There-in is your problem Murdock . . .

    Chuck and I, have been around long enough to see the writing on the wall. We have lived in the good days of the United States . . . and we want to see those days again for our children and Grand-children. Sadly, that may not happen, unless there are major changes in our Governments spending. How many generations are now saddled with debt by the Government? The economy will improve and hit new highs, maybe not tomorrow, but someday, and sadly, the debt will just continue to increase under current Government thinking and management. (I'm not pointing a finger at Obama or Democrats, as Bush and Republicans are just as guilty of the condition we're in.)

    I got a serious question for you to think about Murdock . . .

    You told Chuckie to feel free to leave . . . have you thought about what would happen if Chuckie, a successful businessman, and all the others like him, that aren't happy with the current situation, picked up and left? Personally, I can't think of anywhere else I'd prefer to live, probably same with Chuckie, but there may come a day where we don't have a choice and other places may look better.


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    TO reiterate or whatever...

    Murdock , I made two Med cruises and the things I saw in the various countries I visited made me humble and proud I live in the Good Ole USA.
    I used to go to the fantail after breakfast and smoke a cigarette before muster. When we got to Naples, I was shocked. There were two garbage barges filled the left overs from the mess hall. And guess what...There were about 100 Italian boys sifting thruogh the garbage for whatever the could find. The bigger kids stealing from the little ones.
    When we left Beirut, we found out we had lost 3 of our shipmates to who knows what Arab group.
    WE saw the ruins in Palermo that we still there from WW2 with people living in them with no place else to go.
    When you see these and other things and know what we have here, the appreciation of having to have been born in the USA is the most awesome feeling in the world and should be cherished and guarded for all one's life.
    Chuckie served in Nam. How DARE you imply he should leave the country HE defended and could have died for as I have MANY a friend cold in the ground that did.

    Think about it before you run your mouth the next time.
    Especially on Independence Day.
    The Veterans of the Revolution will probably give you a WARM greeting in the Hereafter
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    Quote Originally Posted by sharder8 View Post
    Chuck and I, have been around long enough to see the writing on the wall. We have lived in the good days of the United States . . . and we want to see those days again for our children and Grand-children. Sadly, that may not happen, unless there are major changes in our Governments spending.
    What were the "good days"? Are you talking about the 70's?

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    the good days for white people of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post
    the good days for white people of course
    LOL... Bill Maher:

    You have to understand the tea party mindset. They have this nostalgia for this 'America' that they think was stolen from them.. that used to be, that was better. It's really the 1950's, OK, that's what they think was Shangri-La. What they never get is that it's kind of insulting to a lot of Americans to pine for this era, because it wasn't that good for a lot of people. It was good if you were a white man. It wasn't that good if you were Mexican. Or Black. Or Jewish. Or disabled. Or gay. Or a woman...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post
    the good days for white people of course

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    You have got to be a closet racist Creatures . . .

    I have never looked at a persons color or race in anything! Like I've said before, I only see the color(s) of the uniforms they wear. I have friends of all races, they are friends. I am an American, and the U.S. is made up of all races, colors, and hues. The U.S. has had good and bad days for Americans, since its founding. We suffer or rejoice as Americans . . . not based on color or race.

    Going OT, Yes I'm against illegals! I don't care what color, or race, or where they came from, I want them out! That is the law! We need to enforce it, just like other countries enforce their immigration laws.


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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon184 View Post
    LOL... Bill Maher:
    It also wasn't the good ol days for racists like Bill Maher. He IS a racist to constantly bash white men. If you can't see that then YOU are a racist to deny it. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

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    /me is still waiting to hear about when these "good old days" were..

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    you were talking about the good old days and to be honest racism was pretty big back in those "good old days" I prefer today to any other day in the past

    if you think I'm a racist you have no idea who I really am.

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    I'm assuming the "good old days" were when parents actually raised their children; when you could leave your door unlocked during the day; when our representatives actually respected the Constitution; when most people could agree on what's good for the country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brandon184 View Post
    /me is still waiting to hear about when these "good old days" were..
    "These ARE the "Good Old Days"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post

    you have no idea who I really am.

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    Ain't that the TRUTH..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Creatures View Post
    you were talking about the good old days and to be honest racism was pretty big back in those "good old days" I prefer today to any other day in the past

    if you think I'm a racist you have no idea who I really am.

    Creatures
    And you have know idea who I am, yet you insinuated racism! At least I'm pointed out more than once, that color/race means nothing to me.

    As for today being better than the "good Ol' days", I'm referring to the days when respect was the rule, when crime wasn't rampant, when you wanted to go to school and weren't forced to, when your employer valued your knowledge and abilities, when loyalty to country and employer were the norm. The days when human life had value, when the policeman was your friend, when a resume was factual, when taxes didn't eat up a huge chunk of your check, when there was positive news on the radio, TV, and in print.

    Maybe I was sheltered or grew up in the right places/times, but I still prefer them to today. FTIW, I'm a product of the '50's, '60's, '70's, and on.


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    How in the hell will "reduced government spending" make "respect the rule" again? Or make your employer value you more?

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