December 31st, 2010, 02:09 PM #1
Complaints Continue To Mount Against TSA
As the TSA expands into all forms of transit and its parent, DHS, moves to "secure soft targets" such as hotels and mall their apparent corporate culture's consequences continue to rack up complaints, currently over a thousand just with the ACLU. Granted some of these complaints are likely to be fabrications or over reactions, many would appear to be legit, and how many complaints never make it to the ACLU, news, or otherwise reach public availability?
Passengers' Stories of Recent Travel | American Civil Liberties Union
December 31st, 2010, 03:18 PM #2
This is for our own safety, Voogru. Though we should be clear that proving yourself safe is of disorderly conduct. Only upon security's demand, preferably without your desire, should you prove your body clear of threats.
Man strips at Va. airport checkpoint in protest | Raw Story
Also be sure that despite any operational or technical shortcomings the system may have it's important that the psychological effect be understood.
CNN.com - Transcripts
CROWLEY: When you say that this has helped, we also know, from various reports and -- and people speaking on background, an ABC report out that 70 percent, sometimes, at majority airports -- there are some major airports who had a 70 percent failure rate at detecting guns, knives, bombs, that they got through in your tests that you all do to see how good security is.
So how good can it be when you have major airports with a 70 percent fail rate?
NAPOLITANO: Well, first of all, I think I know the tests to which you refer. Many of them are very old and out of date and there were all kinds of methodology issues with them. Let's set those aside.
What we know is that we pick up contraband now and we pick up more contraband with the new procedures and the new machinery. What we know is that you can't measure the -- the devices that we are deterring from going on a plane. What we know is that...
CROWLEY: Just people who just are discouraged, thinking they'd be found out...
NAPOLITANO: Exactly. And then what we have to do is say, well, what other ways are they thinking to commit an act? Because our job is not only to react, but to be thinking always ahead, what could be happening.
And so we have enhanced measures going on at surface transportation, not because we have a specific or credible threat there, but because we know, looking at Madrid and London, that has been another...
CROWLEY: Trains, subways...
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December 31st, 2010, 04:27 PM #3
Mission creep? Really?
1. Due to the vigilant efforts of DHS and TSA there has been no successful terrorist attack on US soil for almost a decade.
2. If one occurs(and will eventually) TSA will justify it's very existence with more expansion, funding and more freedom/privacy restriction.
In either case, it's a win-win for the DHS isnt it?
This isn't brown-shirt Conspiracy theory. It's just how governments operate.
December 31st, 2010, 07:40 PM #4
It's how groups often operate, though since Government is generally granted the task of our security its natural their fallacies often fall under the security task. Were we to assign a corporation this task for us it would turn out relatively identical given insufficient accountability and visibility to the public.
Two very important missing components have allowed this to escalate: truth & diligence
CNN.com - Transcripts
NAPOLITANO: ...What we know is that we pick up contraband now and we pick up more contraband with the new procedures and the new machinery. What we know is that you can't measure the -- the devices that we are deterring from going on a plane. What we know is that...
What happened to our ability to actually think? Or was it never really that present?
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